David Miller wrote: > You guys, on the other hand, seem to think > it is a sin to read the other side.
DAVEH: > I see you are not immune to telling me what I > believe either, DavidM. Did you not read my > post that explained that I have a few > anti-Mormon books in my library? I don't remember you saying that you have read those books, only that you have them in your library. Have you read any of them completely? DAVEH: > Do you have a specific question about it? Or > do you just wish to use it to bash LDS theology > or my beliefs? For starters, do you agree that these were the original documents which Joseph Smith translated? David Miller wrote: > I think you misunderstand my intentions. DAVEH: > LOL.......I don't think so, DavidM. But in > case that I have.....what are they? To find out how you deal with the facts about the Book of Abraham, which conclusively prove Joseph Smith lied about his ability to translate Egyptian. DAVEH: > Ahhhhhhh.....In that case, I would be very interested > in knowing if you believe our Heavenly Father currently > has a body of flesh and bones? I believe that Jesus Christ has a body of flesh and bones, and I believe that the Heavenly Father has a body, but not a body of flesh and bones. Dave Hansen wrote: > Do you ever run into folks who have not > read the Bible? If not, does that prevent > you from discussing it with them? It prevents me from having any significant dialogue with them. Those who have never read the Bible can only discuss it on the most superficial basis. I always find myself asking them to read one of the books in the Bible first so that serious dialogue about it can continue. If they refuse to read it, then they lose all credibility with me. They have no basis for dismissing the Bible if they have never read it. Sometimes when I preach at a university and a student objects to the Bible as archaic and not worthy of reading, I ask him questions to expose his knowledge of the Bible. When he admits that he has not even read a whole book from the Bible, you can bet I ridicule him before the hundreds of other students watching our exchange. I shame him with ridicule because he deserves it, if he, on a university campus, thinks he can get away with critiquing something that he has never read. The students always agree with me on this point, whether they believe in the Bible or not. David Miller wrote: > It contains the entire Book of Abraham papyrus DAVEH: > Really?!?!?!?! Are you sure, DavidM? If so, then > I may change my mind. What I meant was that it contains the entire Book of Abraham papyrus that is extant. DAVEH: > Are you accusing Blaine or me for not > having love for our neighbors? Yes. I am your neighbor, having conversed with you for many years over the Internet. Have I EVER made such a request of you before? Ever? As you well know, years ago, I had a much different tenor to how I discussed this subject with you. As my knowledge of Mormonism has grown, my opinions have become more formulated. This is an important thing to me. You don't seem to care. DAVEH: > OK DavidM, enough of your insinuating > comments. Who have I offended? I told you in a past post that you have offended me by not caring to discuss this Book of Abraham issue in detail. DaveH wrote: > As for your comment that we "are motivated > by evil spirits", I respectfully disagree. ... > Anybody who wants to make disparaging > comments about LDS theology will get little > more than "I respectfully disagree" from me. My remark was meant to be taken seriously. What else explains this strange avoidance behavior? Hmmm. Don't you believe in evil spirits as real entities??? Joseph Smith sure believed in them. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.