Haha! Hahaha!! Skip, yeah, you're right. I live in a country so focused on efficiency, we may actually have some kind of formula for lawmaker to citizen ratio! We also control the number of varsity graduates to exactly match market demands.

With efficiency lessons etched so hard into our skulls, I feel for David Jones as he tries to manage a world-wide (and tremendously varied) pool of contributors and contributions. My country is a socialist republic. Maybe David would be happy here. The phrase "benign dictator" sounds like such an oxymoron (how to achieve?). But that seems to be what works, from history's lessons.

I don't think my government would consider "having more laws (or lawmakers) than there are citizens to follow them laws". Hmm. Curious.

Jonathon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"So many people, so few lawmakers."  Gads Jonathon, you obviously don't live
in the U.S where there are two lawmakers for every citizen! :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:52 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: shipments made for out of stock items


Certainly inappropriate. There are also many other inappropriate (or largely
missing) parts in
OFBiz, like EFT handling (different in my part of the world, maybe).

But we have to consider that we have many cooks (we all want in on it), and
just one soup (OFBiz,
framework, foundation functionalities).

I always did wonder why my government doesn't make laws to prevent cyclists
from cycling on
pedestrian pavements/paths. Well, they did, once. But then, they realized
that not everyone cycles
at breakneck speeds like me. :) And cycling at crawl speeds on the roadsides
can be terribly scary
for most folks. So they removed the law. Yeah, they may need to make a law
that fines me for
cycling on pedestrian paths, just me. :P So many people, so few lawmakers.

Jonathon

Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
The more I think about this, it seems inappropriate for an ERP system to
allow this. Why would the quick ship service allow a user to charge a
customers credit card  and "ship" a physical product that the system
"knew" was not available?

Before charging the card, the sales person would want to confirm that
the goods were actually available. Once this was confirmed, it would
take a facility worker 30 seconds to adjust the inventory, leaving an
audit trail etc.

To me this seems like a JIRA issue, which should be fixed.

I'll submit the issue and we'll submit a fix.


Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
Thank you!

David E Jones wrote:
Well, there ya go!

The quick ship order stuff doesn't check stock levels...

-David


On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:

Yes, I should have mentioned that we created a new service to
automatically create shipments. It calls quickShipOrder as part of
it's processing.
-Dave

David E Jones wrote:
What do you mean by "being created"?

There isn't really anything that automatically creates shipments,
unless a human does it through some UI like the shipment or packing
screens (or a service or something was written to automatically do
it somehow).

-David


On Oct 22, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:

It appears that shipments are being created with out of stock
items in an implementation we are doing. I am guessing this is due
to product store settings, not a code issue.
rev =  545314
check inventory=Y
reserve inventory=Y
require inventory=N

All products are finished goods (no digital or virtual)

Thanks for any help.

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