> You're in Singapore, am I remembering that right Jonathon?
Yup.
> Not sure if I'd be so happy there... If I liked lots of rules I'd
> probably work for a large corporation and stick to a 40 hour week,
> 30 of which spent on politic-ing. ;)
We (Singaporeans) would like to believe that we are productive, constructive. ;)
Seriously speaking, Singaporean policies and systems have been quite efficient. Very little
politicking. We have good men and women in management. But yes, we average citizens still complain
that we're not getting enough freedom of movement (and speech) to exercise our capitalistic
ingenuity (not that we actually succeed when we venture out to Taiwan, China) and our creative
streaks.
The few instances of corruption (like the NKF, charitable organization, saga) are exceptions.
Police or official corruption is dealt with severely. I think the basic idea is "a hard rod to
maintain strict accountability".
But I do agree we somehow fall behind places like San Fran in terms of being a brain magnet.
Singapore has made concessions, possibly attempting to make life here more "colorful", such as by
building a casino (our first!). This country has strict code of morals (not that we all follow
them all, but they do influence us some). We have no adult superstores here (last I saw).
Please do come here. :) We need all the brains we can get.
The whole country is as squeaky clean as downtown in San Fran, or more so. As for pretty
sceneries... we have... tall pretty buildings. :P Oh well.
> It's all about collaboration and I don't think top-down management
> is very healthy for that. I see myself as more of a moderator, just
> trying to keep things flowing in a reasonable direction and raising
> red flags when things seem to stray from that (not that I'm always
> right when I do!).
Ok, then I suppose you like biting your nails and pulling out your hair quite a bit. :) Always a
trade-off between "ease of control" and "proliferation of ideas".
Good luck handling us humans! I think I'd rather deal with computers and all
their bugs.
Jonathon
David E Jones wrote:
You're in Singapore, am I remembering that right Jonathon?
Not sure if I'd be so happy there... If I liked lots of rules I'd
probably work for a large corporation and stick to a 40 hour week, 30 of
which spent on politic-ing. ;)
Sometimes it would be nice if my involvement in OFBiz was as a "manager"
or a "dictator", even if a benign or benevolent one, but that's really
not what this open source project is all about (some, mostly commercial
driven ones, are a bit more totalitarian). It's all about collaboration
and I don't think top-down management is very healthy for that. I see
myself as more of a moderator, just trying to keep things flowing in a
reasonable direction and raising red flags when things seem to stray
from that (not that I'm always right when I do!).
This is one of the reasons why there isn't really an end goal or project
plan as there should always be for a traditional organization or
product. There has been some discussion about a road map, which I do
think would be valuable for all, but not as a top-down management sort
of thing, more as a chance for people to collaborate more effectively by
communicating what we'd all like to see in the near and distant future
for the project.
-David
On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
Haha! Hahaha!! Skip, yeah, you're right. I live in a country so
focused on efficiency, we may actually have some kind of formula for
lawmaker to citizen ratio! We also control the number of varsity
graduates to exactly match market demands.
With efficiency lessons etched so hard into our skulls, I feel for
David Jones as he tries to manage a world-wide (and tremendously
varied) pool of contributors and contributions. My country is a
socialist republic. Maybe David would be happy here. The phrase
"benign dictator" sounds like such an oxymoron (how to achieve?). But
that seems to be what works, from history's lessons.
I don't think my government would consider "having more laws (or
lawmakers) than there are citizens to follow them laws". Hmm. Curious.
Jonathon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"So many people, so few lawmakers." Gads Jonathon, you obviously
don't live
in the U.S where there are two lawmakers for every citizen! :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:52 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: shipments made for out of stock items
Certainly inappropriate. There are also many other inappropriate (or
largely
missing) parts in
OFBiz, like EFT handling (different in my part of the world, maybe).
But we have to consider that we have many cooks (we all want in on
it), and
just one soup (OFBiz,
framework, foundation functionalities).
I always did wonder why my government doesn't make laws to prevent
cyclists
from cycling on
pedestrian pavements/paths. Well, they did, once. But then, they
realized
that not everyone cycles
at breakneck speeds like me. :) And cycling at crawl speeds on the
roadsides
can be terribly scary
for most folks. So they removed the law. Yeah, they may need to make
a law
that fines me for
cycling on pedestrian paths, just me. :P So many people, so few
lawmakers.
Jonathon
Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
The more I think about this, it seems inappropriate for an ERP
system to
allow this. Why would the quick ship service allow a user to charge a
customers credit card and "ship" a physical product that the system
"knew" was not available?
Before charging the card, the sales person would want to confirm that
the goods were actually available. Once this was confirmed, it would
take a facility worker 30 seconds to adjust the inventory, leaving an
audit trail etc.
To me this seems like a JIRA issue, which should be fixed.
I'll submit the issue and we'll submit a fix.
Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
Thank you!
David E Jones wrote:
Well, there ya go!
The quick ship order stuff doesn't check stock levels...
-David
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
Yes, I should have mentioned that we created a new service to
automatically create shipments. It calls quickShipOrder as part of
it's processing.
-Dave
David E Jones wrote:
What do you mean by "being created"?
There isn't really anything that automatically creates shipments,
unless a human does it through some UI like the shipment or packing
screens (or a service or something was written to automatically do
it somehow).
-David
On Oct 22, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote:
It appears that shipments are being created with out of stock
items in an implementation we are doing. I am guessing this is due
to product store settings, not a code issue.
rev = 545314
check inventory=Y
reserve inventory=Y
require inventory=N
All products are finished goods (no digital or virtual)
Thanks for any help.
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