On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, John Berry wrote:

> Honestly what are the odds that Ron has gone from real verified things to
> faking?  (and for what reason, not money)

Read my message again.  Read the subject line.   I'm attempting to explain
why he got a cold reception on vortex.

I think people here aren't getting it.  This has nothing to do with his
discovery being real.  I'll say it again:

    WHY DID RON GET A COLD RECEPTION ON VORTEX-L?
    SIMPLE: HIS BEHAVIOR HERE INCLUDED KNOWN "SCAMMER PLOYS"

Flares of anger will automatically put me on guard for a possible scammer.
It shatters trust.  So does his use of the title "Dr." without having a
PhD degree.  And I suspect that the same response occurred with others
here.  It makes him look like someone who is out to manipulate an
audience.   His discovery may be real, but his behavior engenders distrust
(at least it does for me.)


> If you believe his anger is suspicious then please post what questions have
> made him angry so we can see if they are out of order.

>From Ron's comments, it appears that he abandoned vortex-L because I
repeatedly asked him to verify that the 50 kilowatt AM radio tower was not
providing energy.  I can't be certain though.  But here's more:

I wrote my message about "cold reception" the day before.  I see that a
day later Ron has gotten angry and left the overunity.com forum.  It's
because Stefan Hartmann asked him to totally enclose the stand-alone
circuit in aluminum, wo/ any ground wire, to verify that the 50 kilowatts
AM radio tower was not serving as an energy source.  See:

  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3457.375.html



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