On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, William Beaty wrote: > I wrote my message about "cold reception" the day before. I see that a > day later Ron has gotten angry and left the overunity.com forum. It's > because Stefan Hartmann asked him to totally enclose the stand-alone > circuit in aluminum, wo/ any ground wire, to verify that the 50 kilowatts > AM radio tower was not serving as an energy source. See: > > http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3457.375.html
And just to be perfectly clear about *why* I kept insisting on getting rid of the AM radio tower entirely: 1. Go get a radio receiver having connections to a short antenna and to ground. 2. Remove the antenna and instead connect it to an aluminum cake pan. The pan now functions as an antenna. (The ground connection is still there of course.) 3. Place the radio inside the cake pan. Put another cake pan on top to form a shell. What happens? Nothing new, since there is still an RF voltage between the cake pans and the ground wire. The radio still receives signals perfectly well. The cake pan forms the antenna, and it doesn't matter whether the antenna is next to the radio, or whether the antenna is a metal shell enclosing the radio. As long as Ron's device has a ground connection, any enclosing metal shell could function as an antenna (through capacitive coupling to the proto board, a reactance value of a few hundred or a few thousand ohms.) Or said differently: if the cake pans happen to be picking up RF and routing it to Ron's device, then we should expect to see evidence of this: the device will stop working if the ground wire is disconnected, or if the cake pans are connected directly to the ground wire at the point where it enters the proto board. Stefan Hartman apparently zeroed in on exactly this issue. And as I said before: trying to verify FE operation while next to an AM radio tower is like trying to work with photodiodes in direct summer sunlight: it's difficult to reliably shield the device. But the solution is SO SO SO simple. Wait for nightfall. Or where AM radio towers are concerned... pick up your prototype board. Walk over to your car. Drive to a distant location which has an AC outlet. Connect the ground- wire to the metal screw on the AC outlet. AND THEN REPORT WHAT HAPPENED, EVEN IF THE DEVICE STOPPED WORKING. With Ron this simple obvious test apparently never happened. Instead he got mad and left both this forum and Stefan's forum. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci