The level of skepticism in this group even from the moderator makes it very hard to accept the 2nd rule:
NO SNEERING. Ridicule, derision, scoffing, and ad-hominem is banned. "Pathological Skepticism" is banned (see the link <http://amasci.com/pathsk2.txt>.) The tone here should be one of legitimate disagreement and respectful debate. Vortex-L is a big nasty nest of 'true believers' (hopefully having some tendency to avoid self-deception,) and skeptics may as well leave in disgust. But if your mind is open and you wish to test "crazy" claims rather than ridiculing them or explaining them away, hop on board! Let's see, Ridicule possibly (saying he is basically incompetent), scoffing I think so, ad-hominem for sure (acting like a con-man and 'not a real Degree'), Pathological Skepticism in spades. And as for "big nasty nest of 'true believers" that now makes me laugh. And clearly no ability to avoid self deception (but in the opposite direction meant above) "But if your mind is open and you wish to test "crazy" claims rather than ridiculing them or explaining them away, hop on board!" The best saved for last! I see plenty of explaining away no testing. (getting close to giving it a shot though I am preparing for an experiment of my own) I think that the problems are of a psychological nature, it's protection against pain. Easier to attack (and be happy if mistaken) than experience the pain of a failed energy revolution. On 11/2/07, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:40:25 -0700: > Hi, > [snip] > >Geeze... get real. Are you so out to lunch on petty details that you > >cannot see the forest for the trees? He does not owe you a detailed > >accounting of how he eliminated these issues - > [snip] > He does if he wishes to be convincing. > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > The shrub is a plant. > >