On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com> wrote:


I wrote:

> But some claims, if real, can be demonstrated in a simple and obvious way.
CF and heavier than air flight are two examples. When such demonstrations
should be possible but are absent, and there is no reproducibility,
theoretical consistency, or scientific consensus, then it is reasonable to
reject the claims until better evidence comes along.


I should add that even if some people consider the results to be
reproducible and theoretically consistent (which is certainly the case), the
absence of a simple demonstration, when one is possible, would still be
cause for skepticism.


It would be as if the Wright brothers had gone to France and showed everyone
charts and graphs and publications indicating measurements of altitude, and
time aloft, and routes flown and so on. Even if they were right, people
would be forgiven for being skeptical if they refused or were unable to
*show* them.


Koonin made the same point back in 1989, when he quoted Aesop's fable, The
Leap at Rhodes:


*A certain man who visited foreign lands could talk of little when he
returned to his home except the wonderful adventures he had met with and the
great deeds he had done abroad.*

**

*One of the feats he told about was a leap he had made in a city Called
Rhodes. That leap was so great, he said, that no other man could leap
anywhere near the distance. A great many persons in Rhodes had seen him do
it and would prove that what he told was true.*

**

*"No need of witnesses," said one of the hearers. "Suppose this city is
Rhodes. Now show us how far you can jump."*

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