On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Everyone on this forum, by now, should realize that nothing short of
closing the loop will convince the majority of skeptics, and with COP in the
range of 6, any grad student could pull that off at one tenth the cost of a
megawatt plant.



I agree, standalone is essential, as I've repeated many times.


And Rossi's device produces heat, and uses heat as input, so problems of
Carnot efficiency should not be present.


But if Rossi claims he needs electrical input for safety reasons he can't
divulge, then this COP of 6 is marginal at best. The COP of 30 claimed in
January would be easy, but not 6.


For an 80C temperature difference, the Carnot efficiency is only 21%, or
about 1/5. With practical losses, it would not be possible to close the
loop.


Of course, it should not be difficult to design the ecat to operate at
higher temperatures, to make it easier, but there may be excuses about that
too.


A suspicious observer might say Rossi reduced his promised COP to 6 from 30
to give him an excuse for requiring an input; for why he can't close the
loop.

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