my sad vision is there is no vision...

some people think they are right, using bad heuristics.
some follow them by selfish interest to get chocolate medal or to earn
their life
some follow just because they feel right when they follow
some get convinced because they have no culture
some shut up because they are coward, or have to protect their family
some see but nobody hear them

media feel guilty of being pretended wrong and over react to the opposite,
to save their image
population follow the media to be cool
politician follow the population to be elected
scientists follow the money thus the politicians
politicians follow the scientists
media follos the scientists
population follow the media...

system is locked, and the dissenters are fired.
The roland Benabou Groupthink model of mutual assured delusion, based on
the idea that if being right give you no benefit, and cause trouble, then
you prefer to be delusioned... describe the MAD situation.


the best intelligence is few people aware of material science which simply
know they have to be modest, and follow the evidence...
no strategy intelligence in the system above the one of an ant in a colony.
no plan...
at worst vicious hate of those one feel as the evil, the foes accused of
fighting against The True Truth... Defending the consensus like one defend
a Mother Goddess, or simply Mum.
No conspiracy, but huge ego motivation.

all of that is tiny. From what I see , it is a tiny story. like a
kindergarten fight.
It is a serious affair for kids anyway. they bet their soul in those
battle... like some want to clear wikipedia, the holy territory, or science
from pseudoscience.

with planet consequence.



2013/9/23 Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>

> I agree Bob, the world is not managed in order to increase everyone's
> benefit. Jed tends to be an optimist about the future while I and
> apparently you as well are more of a realist. The world is in a mess. The
> West has created an unstable and unsustainable economic structure and many
> parts of the world are being threatened by religious insanity. Add
> something so unexpected, uncontrolled, and threatening to the production of
> oil, coal, and uranium as is LENR, we can expect the worst possible
> outcome.  For example, although  the US is self-sufficient in energy, the
> cost is controlled by the world market. If the cost goes down, the profit
> goes down and the loans supporting the infrastructure cannot be paid,
> resulting in massive default. The system is already saturated with such bad
> debt.
>
>  Meanwhile, China is limited by how fast she can build energy generators
> and by availability of water. If she can out produce us now, just think
> what she can do with unlimited energy. In the future, she will be selling
> to her own people for prices we can not afford, resulting in shortages and
> a lower standard of living in the West. I raise these issues because unless
> the West finds an intelligent way to respond to this situation, we in the
> West will be in bad shape. Unless the real threat is acknowledge, no effort
> will be made to find a solution until it is too late, as is typical of how
> the West reacts. Simply pretending all will work out is not a solution.
>
> Ed
>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote:
>
>  Dear Jed,
>>
>> On 23-9-2013 20:13, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>>
>>> Furthermore, decreasing the cost of energy is likely to improve first
>>> world economies sooner than it improves third world countries or China,
>>> since we have more high tech, we have more ways to grow the economy, and we
>>> import more energy per capita than they do. Lower energy costs would be a
>>> tremendous boon to Japan, because they are closing down all of the nuclear
>>> power plants.
>>>
>>
>> You would be right if the focus of the ones in charge were to be on
>> lowering energy cost and gaining a higher standard of living for ALL people.
>> However I strongly doubt if that is what their real intention is.
>> I tend to agree with Alain and Edmund's (probably also Peter Gluck's)
>> perception of how the world is "managed".
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>

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