Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-12 Thread Gary Selchert
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'd just like to say that there can be no such thing as entry by troops or massive conversions without a few nutcases and snake-oil salesmen coming along for the ride. The more troops, the more undesirables into the mix. Viva los locos! Peace, GS

Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-11 Thread Mark A. Foster
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sorry for my delay in responding. I have completed 8 (I think) books over the summer (12 over the last year), and I have had almost no time to breathe. :) Greer is an interesting fellow. Without specifically addressing him, IMO, anyone involved in the so-called UFO

Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-11 Thread Mark A. Foster
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sorry for my delay in responding. I have completed 8 (I think) books over the summer (12 over the last year), and I have had almost no time to breathe. :) Greer is an interesting fellow. Without specifically addressing him, IMO, anyone involved in the so-called

Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-11 Thread Mark A. Foster
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 6/21/2013 10:19 AM, Hasan Elías wrote: I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. According to the U.S. Baha'i National Center, he is a Baha'i. ---

Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-11 Thread Mark A. Foster
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 6/21/2013 11:09 AM, Hasan Elías wrote: I doubt he is a bahá'í, if he is I'd be positively impressed that he was not removed from the rolls because of his political activities. How does he faced some radical bahá'ís hungry to punish anyone who deviate a hair

Re: Steven Greer

2013-08-11 Thread Mark A. Foster
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 6/21/2013 2:10 PM, Jeanine H. wrote: My own brief research on Greer indicates he is an osteopath professionally and has no experience or training in the fields he makes claims about, whether it is mind-control by aliens or secret military operations or vast

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv it is in the comp on Nature which Jonah lists as being from the BWC in 1988. [see http://bahai-library.com/compilation_nature_bwc ] and I believe I remember seeing it in print around that time. However, it was not included in the CofC, which raises questions about

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And it was in a square format, made by printing on legal size (or equivalent) folded in half, yielding pages that were roughly 7 x 8. The cover was a pastel blue or green w/ no design, just the title. Don C On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:47 08AM, Don Calkins wrote: And

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Jonah says it came to an individual along with the letter on the Gaia Hypothesis. [see http://bahai-library.com/uhj_gaia_concept ] This fact is noted in a couple places. The 1988 date was an estimate on his part. That is the last date of any quote in it and he

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Barry Johnston
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, just a brief (late) comment. As to Dr Greer's Baha'i connection. He may be confused with another man, who has some similar, free energy, claims; a Mr Keshe of the Keshe Foundation, who also claims to be a Baha'i and have approval from the BWC. cheers barrycj On

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would like to see documentation for the idea that Keshe has any kind of approval from the BWC. Don C On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:06 42PM, Barry Johnston wrote: Hi, just a brief (late) comment. As to Dr Greer's Baha'i connection. He may be confused with another man,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. We (common people) have no way to prove his claims, I think the evidence is persuasive but not enough

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Mike, Mark Foster has been following this guy. If we can bring Mark out of occultation, he might be able to tell us something but his description to me was the same as yours. warmest, Susan On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mike Moum mike.m...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. My understanding is that he is still on the membership list.

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
junio, 2013 10:54 A.M. Asunto: Re: Steven Greer The Baha'i Studies Listserv I follow news from Greer as I am a believer in extraterrestrials, but from the videos I saw of him and his activities I am almost sure he is not a bahá'í. My understanding is that he is still on the membership list

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I doubt he is a bahá'í, if he is I'd be positively impressed that he was not removed from the rolls because of his political activities. I believe Mark checked and found he was still enrolled. If he is a bahá'í I'd be also surpraised that the media and the world

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
to contact UFO through meditation, that was awkward So now for me Steven Greer = a dubious guy De: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com Para: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Enviado: Viernes, 21 de junio, 2013 11:14 A.M. Asunto: Re: Steven Greer The Baha'i

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv RE: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars, cheats, schemes, and cultists. A few people are even telling the truth occasionally. ;-) Whether a person is an enrolled Baha'i or not certainly is not (to me) even a main criterion of whether

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Another point of view on Greer and others: The UFO Disclosure Myth- http://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/disclosure.htm On 6/21/2013 2:10 PM, Jeanine H. wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv RE: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Greer's CSETI organization should not be confused with the older SETI Institute, which a number of Baha'is are involved with. They permit their home computers to be accessed via the internet to function as part of a cluster that provides the computing power of a

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Jeanine wrote: Steven Greer: To state the obvious:The Internet is full of liars, cheats, schemes, and cultists. A few people are even telling the truth occasionally. ;-) Whether a person is an enrolled Baha'i or not certainly is not (to me) even a main criterion of

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv What about the image of the Faith? I think Dr. Steven Greer is not just a human talking, if is a bahá'í then there are some problems. The main problem is that he is not exercising his profession so many would see him profiting with lies, and imagine if internauts

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would agree with both you and Hasan Elias. Of course this is particularly unfortunate, since he drags the Name of the Faith down in the mud with him. Unfortunately, there are always folks like this around. I pray the Faith becomes well-enough known so that nutters

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
good judgment, are on board with him and seem to give him credibility because he is a Baha'i, really bothers me. Visit the Baha'i World at www.bahai.org Visit the Baha'is of the United States at www.us.bahai.org Original message Subject: Re: Steven Greer From: Susan Maneck

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Hasan Elías
, 21 de junio, 2013 5:08 P.M. Asunto: Re: Steven Greer The Baha'i Studies Listserv The full backing phrase should be full support (was working from memory),   and came from thus thread:  http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=planetbahaictx=cacheTag=24-4msg=9829.3gid=2028608331

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
message Subject: Re: Steven Greer From: Hasan Elías hasanel...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu CC: -The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Mike, The first link doesn't work (need suscription, I will not suscribe), the second link is just another bahá'í page on Facebook

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread John Bromberek
The Baha'i Studies Listserv At 06:19 PM 6/21/2013, Mike wrote: Hmmm. I got to the page through a Google search. Not sure why it's not working. It comes from an old Delphi forum called planet bahai. The link did work for me. A pretty goofy conversation, there. ...there's a compilation from

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And I assume it is the various references in the Writings to extra-terrestrial beings and creatures. I would suggest people interested in the topic read Troxel's paper on the subject - http://bahai-library.com/troxel_extraterrestrials_exotheology Abstract:

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Moum
at www.bahai.org Visit the Baha'is of the United States at www.us.bahai.org Original message Subject: Re: Steven Greer From: Don Calkins don59...@gmail.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu CC: The Baha'i Studies Listserv And I assume it is the various references

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Jeanine H .
Subject: Re: Steven Greer From: Don Calkins don59...@gmail.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu CC: The Baha'i Studies Listserv And I assume it is the various references in the Writings to extra-terrestrial beings and creatures. I would suggest people interested

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv , there's a compilation from the House on extraterrestrials that's a real eye opener (which I can't find any evidence for), and on and on it goes. It all leaves me a bit speechless. I noted that one source supposedly from this supposed compilation was a quotation

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As one pundit once said, with tongue in cheek, the proof that there's intelligent life in the universe is that they haven't tried to contact us yet. Well put! __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: