Hey guys, I owe you nothing. You don’t have to like my communication. I’ll
take up as much space as I need. Most people expect women to be quiet. I’m
not. You can read my writing in some published books. It’s all on my
website, which is in my signature. Next up is an article on Detroit and
resistance in the first Oxford Handbook of Electronic Dance Music. It’s a
pretty big series.

I’ve never unsubscribed. This is the 313 list, not the IDM list. It’s
pretty important. I used to never or rarely talk on this list. Now I speak
up more. It’s super patriarchal of everyone to gang up on the woman. Often,
I get private messages of support from subscribers when I speak up on this
list.

I’ll email the 313 list any time I have something to contribute.

Denise Dalphond





On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:45 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Very well said.  What’s worse is the lack of remorse. Just empty
> “admissions of guilt”
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM Lerato Khathi <
> booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote:
>
>> i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a
>> long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment .
>> i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back .
>> i do find though that your approach denise  can be very confrontational
>> and can often take up a lot of space . it often feels like the list is
>> dormant bar the denise show .
>> i am personally not gaining a lot from the list  compared to former times
>> and will need to unsubscribe shortly because i get no joy from these
>> occasional outbursts .
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:20, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Kent, nobody knows who’s unsubbing except for you. So maybe it’s
>>> just your family.
>>>
>>> I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a
>>> boyfriend to go clubbing with. But I’m pretty sure I never been wishin I
>>> was Black because then you have to suffer racism.
>>>
>>> I do love the internet though because I can follow Liquid Sky and other
>>> NYC 90s rave accounts on Instagram and see pics of clubs I used to go
>>> raving at in NYC in 1995-1999 when I was going to NYU. Like Twilo, I forgot
>>> about Twilo. And Shelter. And Vinyl. And Roxy. I brought baby powder for
>>> the floor at the Roxy sometimes in my bright blue Adidas backpack, or my
>>> Lisa Frank backpack, cause I was a preppy raver. And the nights, like
>>> Konkrete Jungle.
>>>
>>> Too off topic? Too emotional? I’m so irrational.
>>>
>>> Denise Dalphond
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:10 PM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not
>>>> that great for the list.  Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on
>>>> 313 people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the family.
>>>>
>>>> I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they
>>>> were more opinionated about music and less about each other.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe that’s because he never
>>>>> yelled at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from
>>>>> Dan Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise, the woman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s fine but why can’t folks tell “certain people” to chill the f
>>>>>> out?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it because she’s a woman, hates being white or wishes she was
>>>>>> black?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund
>>>>>>> lately and probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than inside;
>>>>>>> the flavor is completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even
>>>>>>> typing "20 years ago" about a mailing list feels weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what to think about the Derrick May beefing -- I'm not
>>>>>>> close enough to any of the principles in that fight to know what's up.  
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> rather that the focus stay on music, and to my mind, it's been 30 years
>>>>>>> since Derrick May's really been musically relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are loads of Detroit producers and DJs who are doing great
>>>>>>> things now, and I think we've all been remiss to not amplify those
>>>>>>> musicians.  There are vital new voices like Ash Lauryn, who deserve more
>>>>>>> attention:
>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal issues
>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list.  I don't want to say that's not
>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're a group 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in common. So 
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect even if you
>>>>>>> disagree with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lerato Khathi
>> http://uzurirecordings.com
>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
>> Skype : Lakuti
>>
> --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work

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