I didn’t know people could swear so much on this list. That’s so weird to
me.

Hey check out these videos of me on stage talking with Detroit techno and
house founders. Juan Atkins plane didn’t take off from NY or he woulda been
there too.

https://media.dlib.indiana.edu/?_=1525717318970&f%5Bcollection_ssim%5D%5B%5D=Roots+of+Techno%3A+Black+DJs+and+the+Detroit+Scene


With this pandemic lockdown, the only thing I can focus on is finishing my
book ... about Detroit techno.

Thanks so much for more attention on this issue.

Denise Dalphond




On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:09 AM Edward Thompson <ed313...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agree.....
> Everything from her is politically motivated and so so predictable.
> Would be good if the discussion was about Detroit music but everything has
> a motive and its just oh so fucking boring and played out.
> A perfect example of the minority screaming loudest.
> Back in the 90s when i started partying and listening to Detroit
> Techno/House/etc the one thing outside of the great music that was evident
> was that the dance floor was for everyone to be equals. The scene in Sydney
> was a heavily Gay scene and it was awesome. No one cared. No one focused on
> sex, politics, or race. Its a shame that this divisive mindset has infected
> the dance scene today and turned it into something it was never meant to be.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb. 2020, 4:42 am Lerato Khathi, <
> booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote:
>
>> i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a
>> long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment .
>> i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back .
>> i do find though that your approach denise  can be very confrontational
>> and can often take up a lot of space . it often feels like the list is
>> dormant bar the denise show .
>> i am personally not gaining a lot from the list  compared to former times
>> and will need to unsubscribe shortly because i get no joy from these
>> occasional outbursts .
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:20, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Kent, nobody knows who’s unsubbing except for you. So maybe it’s
>>> just your family.
>>>
>>> I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a
>>> boyfriend to go clubbing with. But I’m pretty sure I never been wishin I
>>> was Black because then you have to suffer racism.
>>>
>>> I do love the internet though because I can follow Liquid Sky and other
>>> NYC 90s rave accounts on Instagram and see pics of clubs I used to go
>>> raving at in NYC in 1995-1999 when I was going to NYU. Like Twilo, I forgot
>>> about Twilo. And Shelter. And Vinyl. And Roxy. I brought baby powder for
>>> the floor at the Roxy sometimes in my bright blue Adidas backpack, or my
>>> Lisa Frank backpack, cause I was a preppy raver. And the nights, like
>>> Konkrete Jungle.
>>>
>>> Too off topic? Too emotional? I’m so irrational.
>>>
>>> Denise Dalphond
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:10 PM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not
>>>> that great for the list.  Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on
>>>> 313 people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the family.
>>>>
>>>> I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they
>>>> were more opinionated about music and less about each other.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe that’s because he never
>>>>> yelled at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from
>>>>> Dan Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denise, the woman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s fine but why can’t folks tell “certain people” to chill the f
>>>>>> out?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it because she’s a woman, hates being white or wishes she was
>>>>>> black?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund
>>>>>>> lately and probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than inside;
>>>>>>> the flavor is completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even
>>>>>>> typing "20 years ago" about a mailing list feels weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what to think about the Derrick May beefing -- I'm not
>>>>>>> close enough to any of the principles in that fight to know what's up.  
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> rather that the focus stay on music, and to my mind, it's been 30 years
>>>>>>> since Derrick May's really been musically relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are loads of Detroit producers and DJs who are doing great
>>>>>>> things now, and I think we've all been remiss to not amplify those
>>>>>>> musicians.  There are vital new voices like Ash Lauryn, who deserve more
>>>>>>> attention:
>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal issues
>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list.  I don't want to say that's not
>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're a group 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in common. So 
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect even if you
>>>>>>> disagree with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>>>> ethnomusicologist
>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lerato Khathi
>> http://uzurirecordings.com
>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
>> Skype : Lakuti
>>
> --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work

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