crikey . classic example of how not to built community . i am writing to you as a black african queer woman denise who has put a lot into supporting and nurturing a lot of djs and artists . and i continue to work hard to support communities within the global music network young and old often from marginalized communities who do not get a look in , in the current climate in electronic music but yeah carry on being tone deaf . my last word . thanks for everything to everyone else over the yrs . keep supporting music not egos . i am out of here .
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:52, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey guys, I owe you nothing. You don’t have to like my communication. I’ll > take up as much space as I need. Most people expect women to be quiet. I’m > not. You can read my writing in some published books. It’s all on my > website, which is in my signature. Next up is an article on Detroit and > resistance in the first Oxford Handbook of Electronic Dance Music. It’s a > pretty big series. > > I’ve never unsubscribed. This is the 313 list, not the IDM list. It’s > pretty important. I used to never or rarely talk on this list. Now I speak > up more. It’s super patriarchal of everyone to gang up on the woman. Often, > I get private messages of support from subscribers when I speak up on this > list. > > I’ll email the 313 list any time I have something to contribute. > > Denise Dalphond > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:45 PM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Very well said. What’s worse is the lack of remorse. Just empty >> “admissions of guilt” >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM Lerato Khathi < >> booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote: >> >>> i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a >>> long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment . >>> i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back . >>> i do find though that your approach denise can be very confrontational >>> and can often take up a lot of space . it often feels like the list is >>> dormant bar the denise show . >>> i am personally not gaining a lot from the list compared to former >>> times and will need to unsubscribe shortly because i get no joy from these >>> occasional outbursts . >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 18:20, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, Kent, nobody knows who’s unsubbing except for you. So maybe it’s >>>> just your family. >>>> >>>> I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a >>>> boyfriend to go clubbing with. But I’m pretty sure I never been wishin I >>>> was Black because then you have to suffer racism. >>>> >>>> I do love the internet though because I can follow Liquid Sky and other >>>> NYC 90s rave accounts on Instagram and see pics of clubs I used to go >>>> raving at in NYC in 1995-1999 when I was going to NYU. Like Twilo, I forgot >>>> about Twilo. And Shelter. And Vinyl. And Roxy. I brought baby powder for >>>> the floor at the Roxy sometimes in my bright blue Adidas backpack, or my >>>> Lisa Frank backpack, cause I was a preppy raver. And the nights, like >>>> Konkrete Jungle. >>>> >>>> Too off topic? Too emotional? I’m so irrational. >>>> >>>> Denise Dalphond >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:10 PM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not >>>>> that great for the list. Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on >>>>> 313 people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the >>>>> family. >>>>> >>>>> I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they >>>>> were more opinionated about music and less about each other. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM Denise Dalphond < >>>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe that’s because he never >>>>>> yelled at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from >>>>>> Dan Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Denise, the woman >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That’s fine but why can’t folks tell “certain people” to chill the f >>>>>>> out? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it because she’s a woman, hates being white or wishes she was >>>>>>> black? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams < >>>>>>> chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund >>>>>>>> lately and probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than >>>>>>>> inside; >>>>>>>> the flavor is completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even >>>>>>>> typing "20 years ago" about a mailing list feels weird. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know what to think about the Derrick May beefing -- I'm not >>>>>>>> close enough to any of the principles in that fight to know what's up. >>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>> rather that the focus stay on music, and to my mind, it's been 30 years >>>>>>>> since Derrick May's really been musically relevant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are loads of Detroit producers and DJs who are doing great >>>>>>>> things now, and I think we've all been remiss to not amplify those >>>>>>>> musicians. There are vital new voices like Ash Lauryn, who deserve >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> attention: >>>>>>>> https://undergroundandblack.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal issues >>>>>>>> that have spilled onto the list. I don't want to say that's not >>>>>>>> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're a >>>>>>>> group of >>>>>>>> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in common. So >>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect even if >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> disagree with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>>>> ethnomusicologist >>>>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>>> ethnomusicologist >>>> schoolcraftwax.work >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Lerato Khathi >>> http://uzurirecordings.com >>> http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com >>> http://soundcloud.com/uzuri >>> Skype : Lakuti >>> >> -- > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. > ethnomusicologist > schoolcraftwax.work > -- Lerato Khathi http://uzurirecordings.com http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com http://soundcloud.com/uzuri Skype : Lakuti
