hahaha thank you dave!
andy, you can like it and i wont think less of you! :) many (deaf!! :P)
really good friends on here dig amp a lot too. i'm not consciously comparing
it to anything. music stands on its own and so do opinions. my ears hear
what they hear. it has elements of jazz, house, soul/r&b, etc etc. a great
combination it would seem, which is why i am/was interested. but it comes
out terribly disappointing and uninspired and overly familiar _to my ears_.
your mileage may vary and all that. it IS generic sounding _to me_ -- even
if the combination of genres seems to defy that, the sounds themselves dont.
somehow, my brain tells my ears i have heard it before -- even if the
different sounds were never together in quite the same way before, i still
recognize them and dont like them, on their own, together, either way. and
in any case, if it was a generic record of sounds i liked...but i just plain
dont like the sounds or vocals. coming at it as a jazz record or an r&b
record or a house record does not change how it sounds or how i hear it. if
i tried to hear it as whatever unique new hybrid genre it may be i'd still
hear the same thing. it does not have that much character, to me. nothing
you're saying makes it sound any better, to me. enough people have already
given amp props that i dont think you need to defend your opinion...but i am
a potential fan of this music for stated reasons, and i was wayyy
disappointed. enough said!!
jt
Yeah, I agree completely with JT's comments, as a long time jazz player
and fan I notice that some of the jazzier things seem more hype to
others on this list than to myself, and I think maybe it's because my
background and jazz makes me a little harder to impress with releases
that go in that directions. It's so easy to sound like noodly lounge
music in this genre!!! Haven't heard the new amp fiddler record so I
can't comment on that specifically. But, well I'll just keep my opinion
on his cover of Too High to myself. ;)
--Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: (313) amp fiddler love&war
>i just dont know what to say about this description of love and
>war. IMO nothing is generic about anything about it. perhaps the
>old quote he used in the lyrics is a little familiar, but i think
>that was the point.
what lyrics?? i heard "lovveeee" and some scatting..?? quote? guess i
need
to listen again...? but i just dont even like his voice or his
delivery..syruppy, too smooth not enough real feeling..to my ears! it's
a
subtle thing.
>i really dont see how any of this music is "generic". but you know
>amp fiddler plays keys on at least one and probably more tracks on
>that album.
if its fresh to you then great. not generic? well, i have heard
thousands
and thousands of jazz records. i sell them for a living. so maybe it's
unfortunate but i dont hear anything but limp playing/ideas, heard it
1000
times before kinda stuff, as far as the jazz elements go. as far as his
voice i hear a alot of r&b classic vocalists distilled into something
generic. its not amps fault his voice sounds the way it does but it
doesnt
grab me at all. i gotta say i am not very enthusiastic about the jazzy
kdj
stuff either, but usually it comes together better, progresses, etc etc
so
that it doesnt bug me and hits me better. it's a subtle thing. sometimes
playing/singing this kind of cheese gets by with me, other times it
makes me
cringe and run to pick up the needle..
>box, the amp dog knights, the detroit experiment LP with amp on
a lot of the jazz on detroit experiment falls flat as well imo! sorry. i
know at least a few people on here who are into jazz agree with me..
i much prefer russ gabriel's recent stuff. if he hooked up with a nice
r&b
vocalist i think it could be in the same area as amp but blow him out of
the
water.
if i wasnt extremely disappointed with it i wouldnt have said
anything...
jt
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