On Wed, 03 May 2006 10:25:00 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Op di, 02-05-2006 te 20:32 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui:
Clear should be in edit, not chat...
I doubed this as this action clears the chat.  it's like in a
word-processor, if you want a new fresh file to start with, this command
is in "file".  Also it's more like "close chat" to start over so it's in
the same menu.  Though, it also "edits" the content you are working on
(the chat), I see why it could be a "Edit" candidate.  If it would be in
Edit, it would be the first action, then a speparator, then the
copy/paste actions ...

humm.. indeed.. but it's very confusing... in my brain, 'clear' is something to edit the current window, not a 'file' thing, since we don't open a new hat with someone, we dont' close SB, we dont' send anything over SB, we just modify the current text widget... you see, those ambiguities are why I said the HIG is not enough to be used as a design specs ;)

 I don't understand "New chat ..."
what should it do ? same as "Send message" from actions menu in CL ?
exactly
webcam setup doesn't have its place in edit menu...
Well, the HIG describes to put the "Preferences" item as last item in
the "Edit" menu.  As there are no "Chat preferences" I thought it would
be most naturally to put it here as it's also preferences.  Also I don't
think it fitts in "view", nor "chat" ofr "contact"

ok I understand, but I'm not ok with it, first because I don't think preferences should go in 'Edit', maybe because we're talking about a contact and we can't 'set it up' (maybe custom nick, etc...) but then I'm not better than those who wrote the HIG, so I leave that to them and you can ignore my personal feeling on this... but webcam prefs has nothing to do with a 'chat window', it should be in the contact list menu.. compare with MSN 7.5's menus.. I think we should mix up MSN7.5 menus with current menus (more for functionality reasons, like chat style for ex.) and use the HIG to glue all that together... webcam prefs shoudn't be in a chat window menu imho.. but I understand why you did it and thx for the explanation.

some stuff should be more explicit, like 'add to list' could become 'add
all participants to my contact list'...
I just put 'a' name.  the "naming" itself is done buy the translator
anyway...
humm... overall, I don't like how you have it set it up.. maybe I'm just
wrong...  let's wait for more feedback.
about having one document for all of it, that was my idea, glad we're on
the same frequency! :) use the wiki for it, Tom could help you, he has
great UI design skills, and he can provide mockups (for stuff other than
the menus which are pretty explicit)

KaKaRoTo

On Tue, 02 May 2006 19:21:04 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hmm .. this one misses "open saved files and fotos" which I should place
> underneath "view webcam history".
>
>
> Op wo, 03-05-2006 te 01:13 +0200, schreef Karel Demeyer:
>> Hereby I present you my idea for a reorganisation of the chatwindow
>> menus; Please check this and discuss what you dislike. As my proposal >> for the cl-context menus, it follows the Gnome HIG. If you like these
>> proposals, I'll do more of 'm and code 'm too.  I can bundle 'm in 1
>> document so we have a reference guide if you want.
>>
>>
>> Karel.
>>
>> PS: the "hide window" is power users only as it is a Bad Feature (tm)
>> imo as a user could accidently click it and might panick then (though I
>> know closing a chat ain't the end of the world).  I wanted to keep it
>> for power users (made in the plugin) so nobody misses it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chat  Edit  View  Contact
>> =========================
>>
>>
>>
>> ===Chat===
>> New chat ...
>> Save
>> Clear
>> ---
>> Invite a user
>> ---
>> (Hide window) -> Power users only
>> Close
>>
>>
>>
>> ===Edit===
>> Cut
>> Copy
>> Paste
>> ---
>> Find
>> Find Next
>> Find Previous
>> ---
>> Webcam setup
>>
>>
>>
>> ===View===
>> Emoticons
>> Contact's dp
>> ---
>> chat-style
>> text-size
>>
>>
>>
>> ===Contact===
>> Send file/photo
>> Ask to see webcam
>> Invite to see my webcam
>> Send a nudge
>> ---
>> View Chat history
>> view Webcam History
> view received files
>> ---
>> View profile
>> Send e-mail
>> Send SMS
>> ---
>> Set notes
>> Set an alarm
>> ---
>> block
>> add to list
>> ---
>> Properties
>>
>>
>>
>>
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