Jack, we've all been down the "rational argument" route with Kevin before. He is a typical "God is on my side" zealot who believes his point of view must be right and everyone who disagrees is against God. We all know how much trouble this attitude can get us in. He doesn't care about what's best for Asbury Park. He only cares about what's best for his personal agenda. Logic need not apply.
So my new approach is to simply ignore him and hope he goes away. It worked for several others - as soon as we all stopped falling into the trap of stoking them on they got bored and left. Maybe he can stick with Long Branch - perhaps he can actually find 1-2 peole to follow him there rather than coming here and explain to us all how we should be living our lives and managing our city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think it's so much about bad mouthing you. > You need to step back and think about the situation here in AP a little differently. > Our city has had many more crime problems then LB, and for more then 30 years the city > has been struggling. We residents have to cope with problems brought on by our > homeless population, such as people sleeping in our parks, pan handlers at our > convienience stores, homeless people using our parks etc. as open air bathrooms. Not > only that, but many of these people come to AP with serious drug and alcohol problems, > and AP is not the place to send somebody with a drug problem. There are plenty of drugs > here, and plenty of dealers looking for new customers. One of my pet peeves with the > drinking homeless people is that they don't seem to understand that there are these > things called garbage cans to discard things in, so they just leave them anyplace, such as > my lawn, or broken on somebodies sidewalk. > Meanwhile, AP is trying to make a comeback. I think our growing homeless population is a > threat to this. > And please don't think the people of AP are without compassion, because that's not the > case. Many of us are just plain fed up. That's not so hard to understand, is it? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <jerseykev@> wrote: > > > > I understand. I think the one issue that has some in a knot is the > > fact that the men in the shelter are released every day into the > > public streets. What they must understand is that the Federal Court > > made it illegal to keep them in for 24 hours a day. They are not to > > be in prisoned in the shelter. They are to be released every day in > > an attempt to secure work independent of the shelter and move on with > > their lives. > > > > I saw a guy sleeping in the parking lot over the weekend, he had > > three options. "Shelter, hospital or jail." He was not sick so the > > hospital wouldn't take him. He was not "jailable" - so he had no > > choice but to go to the shelter. He had 2 options there. Fort > > Monmouth or Asbury park. Fort Monmouth wouldn't take him, so he > > wound up in Asbury park. > > > > Now some of you who fight with me about what I have tried to do in > > Long Branch, open the shelter at Lighthouse here, well the irony of > > it is you support the few who have made it impossible to open a Long > > Branch shelter over the last 13 years, and you now have the Long > > Branch homeless in Asbury! > > > > So I decided because Mario & asbury couple like to jump on me every > > chance they get, and because I have faith that MSM will do the proper > > job I have decided not ot provide shelter in the Long Branch project > > at all. Besides there is so much more to do in ministry. > > > > So as we all can see, what a man sows so shall he reap. Those of you > > in Asbury who have joined in with the Long Branch politicians in bad > > mouthing me for wanting to help the homeless here in Long Branch, you > > win, I'll refer them all to MSM in Asbury. > > > > Thanks for lightening my load. > > > > Blessings > > > > KB > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "icaruscriesfire" > > <icaruscriesfire@> wrote: > > > > > > You must understand, kev, those with interests in AP believe that > > no > > > one else has valid interest in AP. They don't need anyone cleaning > > the > > > rose color off their goggles. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <jerseykev@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually it's not a cheap shot. Why don't you focus on Long > > Branch > > > > > issues and stay out of ours. I sense nobody wants you in > > either > > > > > place but you live there so they are stuck with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll focus on what I wish to focus on, thank you very much. > > > > and you senses need an adjustment. > > > > > > > > kb > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/