these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of ccie . i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of ccie
some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ... some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too old ? some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go for ccie or jncie ? some worried a lot about OEQ's . some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate compared to dubai .. i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... some worry about cheet sites some worry about blue print chages some worry about unsubsribe mails .... what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good enough go for CCDE ..CCA ..... sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie <[email protected]>wrote: > > Hi all, > Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are very > different: > > prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? to be > taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to people who are > CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after it? And yes, more > money.... > > I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be fulfilled > than others. > > You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a realistic > assessment if it actually getting it will meet those ambitions. > > On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. However, > I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: > > There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the African > plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars directly at > them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing into Nike running > shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never outrun a lion!!", to which > the first replies, "Forget the lion! As long as I can outrun you, I'll be > fine!!" > > CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that ladder, > the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro Zone > collapse..... > > Regards, George. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will > definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, if you > were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, you have > BIG problems. > > > > If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you > personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, then > NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the pursuit! > > > > That is my two cents. > > > > From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM > > To: Anthony Sequeira > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > Anthony, > > > > I believe this too. > > > > However my concern goes back to the NT4.0 days. Yes the much desired > MCSE. Market quickly became saturated and salaries went down. > > > > Today I can't even find one person who has the most recent MCSE, they > all put it on their CV but when asked they all confess it's NT4.0. LOL > > > > I have no doubt that CCIE's will always be in demand. I am just weighing > up risk vs.reward in terms of actual certification. > > > > I have consulted for 5 years and have never been asked to produce my > certifications. I am sure this is different in the US and some other > countries? > > > > then theirs the stories of CCIE's being interviewed who obviously dont > make the grade and this drags down the accreditation. and of course then > theres the sites that have the exams almost to a tee, sold for a few > hundred dollars. Are the sites info correect, you bet. 3 engineers i > waorked with who certified used the material. > > > > So the question/s really are why all of a sudden is there a massive > acceleration this year compared to other years then? Pretty sure I read > somewhere that the avg was 1200ish? Salaries have been going down for years > (not just in the recession) yet more people are being accredited. > > > > Sorry to sound like Dr Doom and Gloom but I kinda feel like I need to > look past the # first. > > > > Thanks for the replies. > > > > Scott > > > > > > On 6 December 2011 15:07, Anthony Sequeira < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Many of the Cisco peeps at Cisco Live 2011 were discussing how there is > NO WHERE near enough CCIEs in the world to keep pace with the industry. I > suppose you could argue that Cisco is ALWAYS going to make such a > statement, but I truly believe them. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> [mailto: > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>] On Behalf Of Scott Sierra > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:55 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > Morning Guys n Gals, > > > > Anyone know how many candidates succesfully passed the CCIE R&S this > year so far? > > > > Or anyone want to have a fairly educated guess. Want to compare avg's > over the years. Seems to me this was a very accelerated year. > > > > Just trying to guage if the market is becoming a little flooded. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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