Wow... However how much does it cost to rent a place where you are?
My place (2BR apartment) is over $2kAU a month. Mine is cheap too. I also get taxed about 35% of what I earn. Housing in USA is quite cheap (compared to where I am anyway). A cursory look on a real estate website shows 4BR houses with backyards and swimming pools for less than what Im paying in some places. PS Jay, Im having a great day, how are you? ;) Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 On 7 December 2011 09:08, Zsigmond P.Toth <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, the average Hungarian IT salary without any special certs, just being > experienced is around: > > $650-$950 / month --> $7.800-$11.400 / year > > With some basic certs it's around $20.000-$25.000 / year > Last year we (incl me with an HP AIS cert) received $125 f.cking bucks as a > yearly bonus from my previous employer that worked for IBM, Nokia-Siemens, > Diageo and so on as an outsource partner. > > Sure money is one part of the motivation! > > Br, > Zsigmond P.Toth - HP AIS > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> True enough, I've just seen more than a few people who started something >> like the CCIE for only the money and ended up bouncing around to whatever >> cert/etc they thought would pay more and never really got anywhere. >> >> >> >> But your right, money is awesome J >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Donald Robb >> >> Productive Networks / Network Consultant >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003, >> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE >> >> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S >> >> >> >> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: December-06-11 1:31 PM >> To: Donald Robb >> Cc: Imran Ali; George Leslie; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >> >> >> >> Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) at >> geek fests and the like... Whatever... >> >> Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm >> and >> fuzzy and not for the money is full of it. >> >> Money talks and bulls**t walks. >> >> Cheers, >> Matt >> >> CCIE #22386 >> CCSI #31207 >> >> On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level >> > certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it >> > and >> > are up to the challenge. >> > Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact. >> > >> > As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use >> > Cisco >> & >> > Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Donald Robb >> > Productive Networks / Network Consultant >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA >> > 2003, >> > Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE >> > Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali >> > Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM >> > To: George Leslie >> > Cc: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >> > >> > these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of >> > ccie >> . >> > i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of >> ccie >> > >> > some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ... >> > >> > some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too >> old >> > ? >> > >> > some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go >> > for >> > ccie or jncie ? >> > >> > some worried a lot about OEQ's . >> > >> > some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate >> > compared >> to >> > dubai .. >> > i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... >> > >> > some worry about cheet sites >> > >> > some worry about blue print chages >> > >> > some worry about unsubsribe mails .... >> > >> > what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good >> > enough >> go >> > for CCDE ..CCA ..... >> > >> > sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are >> >> very >> >> different: >> >> >> >> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? >> >> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to >> >> people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after >> >> it? And yes, more money.... >> >> >> >> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be >> >> fulfilled than others. >> >> >> >> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a >> >> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those >> >> ambitions. >> >> >> >> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. >> >> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: >> >> >> >> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the >> >> African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars >> >> directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing >> >> into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never >> >> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As >> >> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" >> >> >> >> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that >> >> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro >> >> Zone collapse..... >> >> >> >> Regards, George. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 >> >> > CC: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >> >> > >> >> > The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will >> >> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, >> >> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, >> >> you have BIG problems. >> >> > >> >> > If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you >> >> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, >> >> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the >> pursuit! >> >> > >> >> > That is my two cents. >> >> > >> >> > From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM >> >> > To: Anthony Sequeira >> >> > Cc: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: [OSL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
