True enough, I've just seen more than a few people who started something like the CCIE for only the money and ended up bouncing around to whatever cert/etc they thought would pay more and never really got anywhere.
But your right, money is awesome J Cheers, Donald Robb Productive Networks / Network Consultant ______________________________________________________________ CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003, Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: December-06-11 1:31 PM To: Donald Robb Cc: Imran Ali; George Leslie; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) at geek fests and the like... Whatever... Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm and fuzzy and not for the money is full of it. Money talks and bulls**t walks. Cheers, Matt CCIE #22386 CCSI #31207 On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level > certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it and > are up to the challenge. > Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact. > > As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use Cisco & > Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. > > Cheers, > Donald Robb > Productive Networks / Network Consultant > ______________________________________________________________ > CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003, > Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE > Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali > Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM > To: George Leslie > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of ccie . > i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of ccie > > some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ... > > some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too old > ? > > some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go for > ccie or jncie ? > > some worried a lot about OEQ's . > > some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate compared to > dubai .. > i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... > > some worry about cheet sites > > some worry about blue print chages > > some worry about unsubsribe mails .... > > what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good enough go > for CCDE ..CCA ..... > > sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are >> very >> different: >> >> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? >> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to >> people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after >> it? And yes, more money.... >> >> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be >> fulfilled than others. >> >> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a >> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those ambitions. >> >> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. >> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: >> >> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the >> African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars >> directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing >> into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never >> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As >> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" >> >> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that >> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro >> Zone collapse..... >> >> Regards, George. >> >> >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 >> > CC: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >> > >> > The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will >> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, >> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, >> you have BIG problems. >> > >> > If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you >> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, >> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the pursuit! >> > >> > That is my two cents. >> > >> > From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM >> > To: Anthony Sequeira >> > Cc: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [OSL _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
