you will not go through the pain and just earn peanuts! defiintely, the objective of getting a higher position which comensurate to higher pay Cheers! Antonio Dee, MBM CCIE RS #25609, CCIE SP-Written, CCIE-Security-Written CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP MCSE
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:05:22 +1100 > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > Being motivated by money is not always a bad thing. Some of us have a > wife and children who need food, clothing, shelter, education etc.. Being > a CCIE and then a Dual CCIE is a major goal of mine so I can provide a > good life for my children. What is wrong with that? You can't be the > "average Joe" in IT and expect good money. You need something that makes > you stand out from the crowd, and bring benefit to the company that you > work for. The CCIE does that. > > > > > > > > Michael Davis > CCIE #26050, CISSP #376023 , ECC C|EH > MCSE > > > Webquor Services Pty Limited > Suite 504, Level 5 > 105 Pitt Street > Sydney NSW 2000 > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Tel: 1300 653 115 > Fax: +61 (2) 8905 9224 > > > ITIL® Accredited <http://www.itil-officialsite.com/> > ITIL® <http://www.itil-officialsite.com/> is a Registered Trade Mark of > the Office of Government Commerce, in the United Kingdom and other > countries. > P Please consider the environment before printing this email > "This communication is intended for the addressed recipient only. It may > contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > any use, disclosure, dissemination or any action taken or admitted to be > taken or reliance on it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately and delete the > document. Except as required by law, Webquor Services Pty. Limited does > not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this > communication has been maintained. We also do not guarantee that the > communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference, but > do assume that the utmost effort and technology has been utilised to > ensure that the information is free from such effects². > > > > > > > > > On 7/12/11 8:31 AM, "Jay McMickle" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Man, Matt. Having a bad day? > > > >Chill. > > > >Regards, > >Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP > >Sent from my iPhone > >http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com > > > > > >On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) > >>at > >> geek fests and the like... Whatever... > >> > >> Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm > >> and fuzzy and not for the money is full of it. > >> > >> Money talks and bulls**t walks. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Matt > >> > >> CCIE #22386 > >> CCSI #31207 > >> > >> On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> > >>wrote: > >>> Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level > >>> certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it > >>>and > >>> are up to the challenge. > >>> Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact. > >>> > >>> As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use > >>>Cisco > >> & > >>> Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Donald Robb > >>> Productive Networks / Network Consultant > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA > >>>2003, > >>> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE > >>> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali > >>> Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM > >>> To: George Leslie > >>> Cc: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > >>> > >>> these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of > >> ccie . > >>> i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of > >> ccie > >>> > >>> some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month > >>>... > >>> > >>> some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am > >>>too > >> old > >>> ? > >>> > >>> some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go > >>>for > >>> ccie or jncie ? > >>> > >>> some worried a lot about OEQ's . > >>> > >>> some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate > >>>compared > >> to > >>> dubai .. > >>> i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... > >>> > >>> some worry about cheet sites > >>> > >>> some worry about blue print chages > >>> > >>> some worry about unsubsribe mails .... > >>> > >>> what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good > >>>enough > >> go > >>> for CCDE ..CCA ..... > >>> > >>> sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are > >>>> very > >>>> different: > >>>> > >>>> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? > >>>> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to > >>>> people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after > >>>> it? And yes, more money.... > >>>> > >>>> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be > >>>> fulfilled than others. > >>>> > >>>> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a > >>>> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those > >>>>ambitions. > >>>> > >>>> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. > >>>> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: > >>>> > >>>> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the > >>>> African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars > >>>> directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing > >>>> into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never > >>>> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As > >>>> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" > >>>> > >>>> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that > >>>> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro > >>>> Zone collapse..... > >>>> > >>>> Regards, George. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 > >>>>> CC: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > >>>>> > >>>>> The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will > >>>> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, > >>>> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, > >>>> you have BIG problems. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you > >>>> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, > >>>> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the > >> pursuit! > >>>>> > >>>>> That is my two cents. > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM > >>>>> To: Anthony Sequeira > >>>>> Cc: [email protected] > >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > >>please visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >>www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > >_______________________________________________ > >For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > >visit www.ipexpert.com > > > >Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > >http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
