Man, Matt. Having a bad day? Chill.
Regards, Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP Sent from my iPhone http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) at > geek fests and the like... Whatever... > > Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm > and fuzzy and not for the money is full of it. > > Money talks and bulls**t walks. > > Cheers, > Matt > > CCIE #22386 > CCSI #31207 > > On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote: >> Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level >> certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it and >> are up to the challenge. >> Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact. >> >> As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use Cisco > & >> Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. >> >> Cheers, >> Donald Robb >> Productive Networks / Network Consultant >> ______________________________________________________________ >> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003, >> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE >> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali >> Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM >> To: George Leslie >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >> >> these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of > ccie . >> i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of > ccie >> >> some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ... >> >> some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too > old >> ? >> >> some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go for >> ccie or jncie ? >> >> some worried a lot about OEQ's . >> >> some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate compared > to >> dubai .. >> i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... >> >> some worry about cheet sites >> >> some worry about blue print chages >> >> some worry about unsubsribe mails .... >> >> what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good enough > go >> for CCDE ..CCA ..... >> >> sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are >>> very >>> different: >>> >>> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? >>> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to >>> people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after >>> it? And yes, more money.... >>> >>> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be >>> fulfilled than others. >>> >>> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a >>> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those ambitions. >>> >>> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. >>> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: >>> >>> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the >>> African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars >>> directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing >>> into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never >>> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As >>> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" >>> >>> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that >>> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro >>> Zone collapse..... >>> >>> Regards, George. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 >>>> CC: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >>>> >>>> The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will >>> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, >>> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, >>> you have BIG problems. >>>> >>>> If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you >>> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, >>> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the > pursuit! >>>> >>>> That is my two cents. >>>> >>>> From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM >>>> To: Anthony Sequeira >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [OSL > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
