Being motivated by money is not always a bad thing. Some of us have a wife and children who need food, clothing, shelter, education etc.. Being a CCIE and then a Dual CCIE is a major goal of mine so I can provide a good life for my children. What is wrong with that? You can't be the "average Joe" in IT and expect good money. You need something that makes you stand out from the crowd, and bring benefit to the company that you work for. The CCIE does that.
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Limited does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained. We also do not guarantee that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference, but do assume that the utmost effort and technology has been utilised to ensure that the information is free from such effects². On 7/12/11 8:31 AM, "Jay McMickle" <[email protected]> wrote: >Man, Matt. Having a bad day? > >Chill. > >Regards, >Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP >Sent from my iPhone >http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com > > >On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) >>at >> geek fests and the like... Whatever... >> >> Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm >> and fuzzy and not for the money is full of it. >> >> Money talks and bulls**t walks. >> >> Cheers, >> Matt >> >> CCIE #22386 >> CCSI #31207 >> >> On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>> Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level >>> certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it >>>and >>> are up to the challenge. >>> Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact. >>> >>> As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use >>>Cisco >> & >>> Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Donald Robb >>> Productive Networks / Network Consultant >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA >>>2003, >>> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE >>> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali >>> Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM >>> To: George Leslie >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >>> >>> these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of >> ccie . >>> i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of >> ccie >>> >>> some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month >>>... >>> >>> some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am >>>too >> old >>> ? >>> >>> some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go >>>for >>> ccie or jncie ? >>> >>> some worried a lot about OEQ's . >>> >>> some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate >>>compared >> to >>> dubai .. >>> i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... >>> >>> some worry about cheet sites >>> >>> some worry about blue print chages >>> >>> some worry about unsubsribe mails .... >>> >>> what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good >>>enough >> go >>> for CCDE ..CCA ..... >>> >>> sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are >>>> very >>>> different: >>>> >>>> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? >>>> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to >>>> people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after >>>> it? And yes, more money.... >>>> >>>> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be >>>> fulfilled than others. >>>> >>>> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a >>>> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those >>>>ambitions. >>>> >>>> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. >>>> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: >>>> >>>> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the >>>> African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars >>>> directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing >>>> into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never >>>> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As >>>> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" >>>> >>>> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that >>>> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro >>>> Zone collapse..... >>>> >>>> Regards, George. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 >>>>> CC: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? >>>>> >>>>> The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will >>>> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, >>>> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, >>>> you have BIG problems. >>>>> >>>>> If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you >>>> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, >>>> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the >> pursuit! >>>>> >>>>> That is my two cents. >>>>> >>>>> From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM >>>>> To: Anthony Sequeira >>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >_______________________________________________ >For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >visit www.ipexpert.com > >Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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