Glad to hear. ;)

Houston has just about the least expensive cost of living.

Nice 5bd house- 3,800 sq ft = runs about $325,000 USD

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
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On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow...
> 
> However how much does it cost to rent a place where you are?
> 
> My place (2BR apartment) is over $2kAU a month.  Mine is cheap too.  I
> also get taxed about 35% of what I earn.  Housing in USA is quite
> cheap (compared to where I am anyway).  A cursory look on a real
> estate website shows 4BR houses with backyards and swimming pools for
> less than what Im paying in some places.
> 
> PS Jay, Im having a great day, how are you?  ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> Matt
> 
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
> 
> On 7 December 2011 09:08, Zsigmond P.Toth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, the average Hungarian IT salary without any special certs, just being
>> experienced is around:
>> 
>> $650-$950 / month --> $7.800-$11.400 / year
>> 
>> With some basic certs it's around $20.000-$25.000 / year
>> Last year we (incl me with an HP AIS cert) received $125 f.cking bucks as a
>> yearly bonus from my previous employer that worked for IBM, Nokia-Siemens,
>> Diageo and so on as an outsource partner.
>> 
>> Sure money is one part of the motivation!
>> 
>> Br,
>> Zsigmond P.Toth - HP AIS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> True enough, I've just seen more than a few people who started something
>>> like the CCIE for only the money and ended up bouncing around to whatever
>>> cert/etc they thought would pay more and never really got anywhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But your right, money is awesome J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Donald Robb
>>> 
>>> Productive Networks / Network Consultant
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003,
>>> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE
>>> 
>>> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: December-06-11 1:31 PM
>>> To: Donald Robb
>>> Cc: Imran Ali; George Leslie; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Disagree. Dick wagging (often referred to as "prestige" to sound nice) at
>>> geek fests and the like...  Whatever...
>>> 
>>> Sure CCIE was an achievement but anyone who says they do it to feel warm
>>> and
>>> fuzzy and not for the money is full of it.
>>> 
>>> Money talks and bulls**t walks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> CCIE #22386
>>> CCSI #31207
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, 7 December 2011, Donald Robb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level
>>>> certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it
>>>> and
>>>> are up to the challenge.
>>>> Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact.
>>>> 
>>>> As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use
>>>> Cisco
>>> &
>>>> Juniper, why not pursue both down the road.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donald Robb
>>>> Productive Networks / Network Consultant
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA
>>>> 2003,
>>>> Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE
>>>> Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali
>>>> Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM
>>>> To: George Leslie
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011?
>>>> 
>>>> these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of
>>>> ccie
>>> .
>>>> i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of
>>> ccie
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ...
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too
>>> old
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go
>>>> for
>>>> ccie or jncie ?
>>>> 
>>>> some worried a lot about OEQ's .
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate
>>>> compared
>>> to
>>>> dubai ..
>>>> i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ......
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about cheet sites
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about blue print chages
>>>> 
>>>> some worry about unsubsribe mails ....
>>>> 
>>>> what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good
>>>> enough
>>> go
>>>> for CCDE ..CCA .....
>>>> 
>>>> sorry guys i am  trying to get "more " technical output from this forum
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Totally agree Anthony.  People's motivation for doing the CCIE are
>>>>> very
>>>>> different:
>>>>> 
>>>>> prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions?
>>>>> to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to
>>>>> people who are CCIE?  to keep up with work colleagues who are after
>>>>> it?  And yes, more money....
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be
>>>>> fulfilled than others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a
>>>>> realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those
>>>>> ambitions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping.
>>>>> However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the
>>>>> African plains.  One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars
>>>>> directly at them.  One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing
>>>>> into Nike running shoes.  The other cameraman says: "You'll never
>>>>> outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion!  As
>>>>> long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!"
>>>>> 
>>>>> CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs.  The higher you get on that
>>>>> ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro
>>>>> Zone collapse.....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, George.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800
>>>>>> CC: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will
>>>>> definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion,
>>>>> if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass,
>>>>> you have BIG problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you
>>>>> personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth,
>>>>> then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the
>>> pursuit!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is my two cents.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM
>>>>>> To: Anthony Sequeira
>>>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL
>>> 
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