Personally I think someone perusing a CCIE (or any other high level certification for that matter) should do it because they want to do it and are up to the challenge. Any other benefits such as pay should come after the fact.
As for things like deciding what vendor to certify with, if you use Cisco & Juniper, why not pursue both down the road. Cheers, Donald Robb Productive Networks / Network Consultant ______________________________________________________________ CCIE Written, CCIP, CCSP, CCDP, CCNP, CCNA: Voice, JNCIP, SCP, MCSA 2003, Security+, CCSE.R65, PACE Experts-Exchange: Guru - R&S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Imran Ali Sent: December-06-11 11:08 AM To: George Leslie Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? these days i am seeing lot of people worrying about " statistics " of ccie . i thing this act of acquiring info is an attempt to "evaluate" value of ccie some worry about passing rate , i OMG nearly 200 ccie's in one month ... some worry about age of earing certificate ....i am too young ..i am too old ? some worry about cisco market share compared to juniper ..should i go for ccie or jncie ? some worried a lot about OEQ's . some worry about locations ...oh no brussels have good pass rate compared to dubai .. i have seen people skipping banglore and went to dubai ...... some worry about cheet sites some worry about blue print chages some worry about unsubsribe mails .... what i am saying is stop them all . first get ccie , feel not good enough go for CCDE ..CCA ..... sorry guys i am trying to get "more " technical output from this forum On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, George Leslie <[email protected]>wrote: > > Hi all, > Totally agree Anthony. People's motivation for doing the CCIE are > very > different: > > prestige? personal challenge? to be at the top of one's professions? > to be taken seriously by "pointy haired bosses" who only listen to > people who are CCIE? to keep up with work colleagues who are after > it? And yes, more money.... > > I think all are valid reasons, but some are more likely to be > fulfilled than others. > > You have to know your own true motivation for doing it, and a > realistic assessment if it actually getting it will meet those ambitions. > > On the salary front, yes it is true that salaries are dropping. > However, I am reminded of a Billy Connolly joke: > > There are 2 Scottish cameramen, filming lions in the middle of the > African plains. One of the lions turns to the cameraman and roars > directly at them. One of the cameraman pauses and starts changing > into Nike running shoes. The other cameraman says: "You'll never > outrun a lion!!", to which the first replies, "Forget the lion! As > long as I can outrun you, I'll be fine!!" > > CCIEs outrun CCNPs who outrun CCNAs. The higher you get on that > ladder, the safer you are in times of recession, depression and Euro > Zone collapse..... > > Regards, George. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:52:57 -0800 > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > The pursuit of this certification is so difficult that you will > definitely want to clear all of these thoughts first. In my opinion, > if you were caught up in these thoughts as you are attempting to pass, > you have BIG problems. > > > > If you determine that his certification is no longer worth it to you > personally, then by all means, forget it. Should you see its worth, > then NEVER think about any of these thoughts again, and enjoy the pursuit! > > > > That is my two cents. > > > > From: Scott Sierra [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:29 AM > > To: Anthony Sequeira > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > Anthony, > > > > I believe this too. > > > > However my concern goes back to the NT4.0 days. Yes the much desired > MCSE. Market quickly became saturated and salaries went down. > > > > Today I can't even find one person who has the most recent MCSE, > > they > all put it on their CV but when asked they all confess it's NT4.0. LOL > > > > I have no doubt that CCIE's will always be in demand. I am just > > weighing > up risk vs.reward in terms of actual certification. > > > > I have consulted for 5 years and have never been asked to produce my > certifications. I am sure this is different in the US and some other > countries? > > > > then theirs the stories of CCIE's being interviewed who obviously > > dont > make the grade and this drags down the accreditation. and of course > then theres the sites that have the exams almost to a tee, sold for a > few hundred dollars. Are the sites info correect, you bet. 3 engineers > i waorked with who certified used the material. > > > > So the question/s really are why all of a sudden is there a massive > acceleration this year compared to other years then? Pretty sure I > read somewhere that the avg was 1200ish? Salaries have been going down > for years (not just in the recession) yet more people are being accredited. > > > > Sorry to sound like Dr Doom and Gloom but I kinda feel like I need > > to > look past the # first. > > > > Thanks for the replies. > > > > Scott > > > > > > On 6 December 2011 15:07, Anthony Sequeira < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Many of the Cisco peeps at Cisco Live 2011 were discussing how there > > is > NO WHERE near enough CCIEs in the world to keep pace with the > industry. I suppose you could argue that Cisco is ALWAYS going to make > such a statement, but I truly believe them. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> [mailto: > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>] On Behalf Of Scott Sierra > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:55 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] How many certified in 2011? > > > > Morning Guys n Gals, > > > > Anyone know how many candidates succesfully passed the CCIE R&S this > year so far? > > > > Or anyone want to have a fairly educated guess. Want to compare > > avg's > over the years. Seems to me this was a very accelerated year. > > > > Just trying to guage if the market is becoming a little flooded. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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