Hi Marko - does this mean that the IPExpert BLS is not enough to pass?  I have 
completed vol1 and 2 now and am starting on vol3 next week?  I am really 
gaining a good understanding of everything presented but I am worried now that 
it won't be good enough anymore.
What more would I need to do apart from all 3 workbooks and lots of study and 
reading?

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On 03/03/2012, at 11:23 AM, "Marko Milivojevic" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One thing is certain - no single piece of study material is a magic
> bullet. All of our material works together towards the goal of
> preparing you to pass the test.
> 
> In the past few months, the bar has been raised considerably when it
> comes to the troubleshooting section in the lab. Simply knowing "how
> to configure" doesn't cut it anymore and the training material and
> classes that focus on recipes are no longer enough. Candidates who go
> to the lab need to have a deep understanding on why things work the
> way they do and how they WORK, not how they're configured.
> 
> All of our new products, including OWLE, but primarily 5-day ILT that
> I teach have *sharp* focus on deep technology understanding. Our new
> self-study products for example recently published "IPv4/IPv6
> Multicast Operation and Troubleshooting" book reflect the entirely new
> direction our training is taking. In the near future, we'll also be
> revamping our other self-study products to bring them up to speed. Our
> Volume 1-3 workbooks are probably the best preparation material on the
> market, but we want them even better, with more focus on deep protocol
> operations.
> 
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert
> 
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 08:35, J D'Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My $0.02 for what's it's worth...
>> 
>> I have also taking the lab exam twice, and failed the TS section twice.
>> The second time I had enough tickets fixed to pass the section, and I
>> verified that all were working.  I still came away with a significantly
>> lower score than expected.  I was very careful to fix things, and not just
>> remove configs, so I'm really at a loss where I went wrong.
>> 
>> As well, I also did take the OWLE, and while it did help me focus on fixing
>> the configs as opposed to removing them, it certainly wasn't a magic bullet
>> for me to pass the TS section.  It was a great experience, and I enjoyed it
>> imensely, but don't go into it thinking that you'll all of a sudden have
>> the tools to pass the TS secstion.
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Diego Gonzalez <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry for your not pass!
>>> 
>>> I failed some months ago (also failed in tshoot section) and I understand
>>> your felling.
>>> 
>>> My advice..practice and practice. understand all the topics (as you has
>>> made the exam..you know more or less what are the typical topics in this
>>> exam), make your own scenarios and try "tipical issues" to view the
>>> behaivor and the way to you can resolve.
>>> 
>>> Review the tech document TECCCIE-3610 (from Cisco Live of 2011). For me,
>>> this was very usefull because you can see how is the exam, how is the
>>> grading process and several guidelines that I didn't know in my first
>>> attempt.
>>> 
>>> Of course, practice the time management.. Is one of the most important
>>> thing to pass this exam. You have to make your strategy and apply it in the
>>> exam (in the lab you wont have time to think in this things...)
>>> 
>>> Lucky for the next attempt!!
>>> 
>>> Diego.
>>> 
>>> 2012/2/25 ron harmon <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> Don;
>>>> 
>>>> I can personally recommend  the OWLE from IP Expert.
>>>> 
>>>> The entire week is very valuable and the tips you will get from Marko are
>>>> sure to make a big impact in your next lab.
>>>> 
>>>> There is an OWLE in San Jose in a couple of weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of success on your next attempt!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Don Pezet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I need some advice. I have unsuccessfully attempted the lab exam twice
>>>> now.
>>>>> I am doing fine on the configuration section and on my second attempt I
>>>>> passed with almost an hour left to check my configurations so I don't
>>>> have
>>>>> any worries there. However, I failed the troubleshooting section both
>>>>> times. The first time I solved 7/10 tickets before running out of time
>>>> so I
>>>>> came really close. I then spent three months focused on troubleshooting
>>>> and
>>>>> attempted the exam a second time, confident I would pass. On my second
>>>>> attempt I tried to do better time management and focus on tickets that
>>> I
>>>>> knew I could solve. I marked down that I solved 8, however when I got
>>> my
>>>>> score report I only solved 5/10 tickets so I actually did worse than my
>>>>> first attempt. The test definitely seemed more difficult, but I think
>>> it
>>>> is
>>>>> obvious that my study methods are not paying off. Apparently when I
>>> setup
>>>>> the network myself (the config section) I have no problems, but when
>>>>> someone else sets up the network (the troubleshooting section) I am
>>>> stuck.
>>>>> So, I am looking for advice on what I can do to strengthen my
>>>>> troubleshooting skills.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what I have been doing so far:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - I have watched all of the BLS content multiple times.
>>>>> - I have performed the CCIE R&S Workbook Volume I and Volume III labs
>>>>> multiple times on Proctor Labs equipment as well as in simulators.
>>>>> - I have performed the troubleshooting labs from Volume III enough
>>> times
>>>>> that I have the solutions memorized so it is not really troubleshooting
>>>> any
>>>>> more.
>>>>> - I have memorized countless template configurations so I know what
>>>>> commands are needed / not-needed when setting up things like MPLS,
>>>>> Frame-Relay, AutoRP, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point I am scratching my head as to what to do next. Does
>>> anyone
>>>>> have any advice on what I can do to get better at troubleshooting? Does
>>>>> IPExpert have any additional products outside of the BLS bundle that
>>>> covers
>>>>> this better? Or a live class? I am thinking about repeating the CCNP
>>>> TSHOOT
>>>>> class to see if that helps, but the tickets on the lab exam are more
>>>>> advanced and cover topics not included in TSHOOT.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Ron Harmon
>>>> Network Engineer
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