I like that, "be the packet". I hope that isn't copywrite! Regards, Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP Sent from iJay
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Joe Danrich <[email protected]> wrote: > > Don > > Back in the 90's when I got my CCIE, the labs were a bit different with > troubleshooting being last. With that being said, it's still feels odd to > most people to work on networks that they haven't designed or installed. > > For me when troubleshooting a network issue I try to do the following: > > 1. Be the packet.. Usually if you can figure the correct path your supposed > to be on, you'll see oddities more clearly and problems with the path > selection. > 2. Break the problem in half if you can. Troubleshoot from the beginning to > the middle. If that's good, then go mid to end. If the problem is in the > first half, then you might have to break that portion in half also. > > Some things you can try, but you'll need someone to help you. > > - Create various networks. > - Have someone come in a break them in multiple places. > - Have them write down what the problems are in the same vague way that Cisco > does in the lab. > > Lastly, if you can work in an area of a company as nothing but a > troubleshooter, like a help desk on a network you know nothing about then > you'll increase the skill sets. > > Ta , > > Joe > > > > On 02/21/2012 04:31 PM, Tim Miller wrote: >> Hey Don: >> Troubleshooting is my albatross too. >> The following improved my TS skills, but they are still subpar: >> 1) read the "Troubleshooting<technology> Guide" on the DocCD. >> 2) list the five (or whatever) most important TS commands for that >> technology. >> 3) make Anki (ankisrs.net) cards and memorize them so as soon as you see a >> ticket with say Multicast, your mind rattles off the commands before you >> even have a chance to think. >> 4) try to use labs that a friend made for you. >> Hope it helps. >> Tim >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Don Pezet<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I need some advice. I have unsuccessfully attempted the lab exam twice now. >>> I am doing fine on the configuration section and on my second attempt I >>> passed with almost an hour left to check my configurations so I don't have >>> any worries there. However, I failed the troubleshooting section both >>> times. The first time I solved 7/10 tickets before running out of time so I >>> came really close. I then spent three months focused on troubleshooting and >>> attempted the exam a second time, confident I would pass. On my second >>> attempt I tried to do better time management and focus on tickets that I >>> knew I could solve. I marked down that I solved 8, however when I got my >>> score report I only solved 5/10 tickets so I actually did worse than my >>> first attempt. The test definitely seemed more difficult, but I think it is >>> obvious that my study methods are not paying off. Apparently when I setup >>> the network myself (the config section) I have no problems, but when >>> someone else sets up the network (the troubleshooting section) I am stuck. >>> So, I am looking for advice on what I can do to strengthen my >>> troubleshooting skills. >>> >>> Here is what I have been doing so far: >>> >>> - I have watched all of the BLS content multiple times. >>> - I have performed the CCIE R&S Workbook Volume I and Volume III labs >>> multiple times on Proctor Labs equipment as well as in simulators. >>> - I have performed the troubleshooting labs from Volume III enough times >>> that I have the solutions memorized so it is not really troubleshooting any >>> more. >>> - I have memorized countless template configurations so I know what >>> commands are needed / not-needed when setting up things like MPLS, >>> Frame-Relay, AutoRP, etc. >>> >>> At this point I am scratching my head as to what to do next. Does anyone >>> have any advice on what I can do to get better at troubleshooting? Does >>> IPExpert have any additional products outside of the BLS bundle that covers >>> this better? Or a live class? I am thinking about repeating the CCNP TSHOOT >>> class to see if that helps, but the tickets on the lab exam are more >>> advanced and cover topics not included in TSHOOT. >>> >>> Thanks for your time, >>> >>> Don >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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