don't know and don't have time to look, but I submit that it is not neglible, a, and b, would depend very much on the definition of "handicap". If you count arthritis and depression it could be high indeed. Granted, people with those conditions are better off the more they *do* exercise, but that does not mean that it's easy for them or that they can get the kind of aerobic exercise that can do them the most good.
And again, I don't think it's that simple for everyone, and probably not for most people. My excess weight, personally, since I seem to be coming out about this, was due to failure to diagnose a thyroid condition, compounded by pregnancy, lack of opportunity to exercise, and probably some post-partum depression thrown in for color. Right now the main issue is activity level, but since I'm starting at physical therapy, I would be one of the people with a non-obvious handicap (a spinal fracture). Just saying. Pushing away from the table is nowhere near the whole story for me, and imho was always a rather small part of the problem. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North > America can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a > significant enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right > (ie. lots of veggies, not much fried or processed food) and exercise? If it > is, then I'll happily apologize for insinuating that the epidemic of > obesity is largely self-inflicted and preventable. > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of debilitating > > conditions won't put you in a wheelchair. > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with the > > other > > > 99.9% of obese people. :) > > > I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise > sufficiently > > > due > > > > to disabilities. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM > > > > To: cf-community > > > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children > > > > > > > > > > > > it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I > am > > > > saying. > > > > > > > > Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other > > > reason, > > > > may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining more > but > > > not > > > > causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much > have > > to > > > > exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and > keep > > it > > > > off. I for one lost about forty pounds in the past year, but I was > > quite > > > > sick for a while and didn't eat much and what I did eat was raw. > That's > > > > fine, and I've been able to keep it off, but you can't eat all fruit > > all > > > of > > > > the time and stay healthy. Before that, when I asked doctors, I got > > > > different advice. Don't worry about carbs - just avoid fat. Cut back > on > > > > carbs. Eat nothing but protein, and don't worry too much about the > fat. > > > > Count calories. Don't count calories, you'll make yourself crazy -- > > just > > > > eat > > > > right. Like I don't. I probably have better cholesterol numbers than > > > anyone > > > > on this list ;) > > > > > > > > So.... I thought three times before getting into this, because I > didn't > > > > want > > > > to sound defensive, or like I was making excuses, but this isn't > really > > > > about me. I have more weight to lose and am pretty sure that for me > the > > > key > > > > will be increasing my activity level, but I don't think that's the > case > > > for > > > > everyone. My mother was a yo-yo dieter and crash programs certainly > > > didn't > > > > work for her, and she did religiously swim three or four times a week > > for > > > > years. > > > > > > > > People gain weight for different reasons. The ones who gain because > > they > > > > eat > > > > too much eat too much for different reasons. There are people who > have > > > > thyroid problems and people who just don't exercise. One size does > not > > > fit > > > > all, is what I am saying. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :) > > > > > > > > > > See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate. > > > > > > > > > > On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > The other two legs of the > > > > > > stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. > > > > > > Reasonable portions and routine exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345994 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
