With respect to your experience, you may be one of the small percentage of 
people where best practices don't work.  If you are, then your journey is 
comparitively very difficult.

That said, I was complicated - at least to me :). It took me 5 years to figure 
out the diet I responded too and I still havent got it habit-i-tized yet.

It's complex ... You have play with multiple variables all while trying to make 
a living and deal with everyday stressors.  And economics are definitely at 
work - there are always options, but they get fewer and fewer the less money 
you have.

This makes fat fucks like Limbaugh all the more offensive to normal people like 
us who've accomplished so much more.



On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> ok well... maybe Medic is right. Apparently the only thing to do here is
> agree to disagree. With all due respect to your wife's experience, it
> doesn't correspond to mine. And that's ok, I'm not saying her story isn't
> valid. I just wish you would give other people that same respect.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It's 90%.  My wife used to do the cyber arc trainer for hours a day for
>> years.
>> 
>> Then she changed her carb-o-holic ways and in 2 months had the doctor
>> saying "don't lose any more weight
>> 2-arm table push-aways.  Seriously.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> We all know diet is only one leg of the stool. Yes, dietary guidelines
>>> change over time and there's different theories. The other two legs of
>> the
>>> stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. Reasonable
>>> portions and routine exercise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, they don't.  There is so much misinformation about weight
>>>> loss circulating that most people have no real idea of how to lose
>>>> weight beyond the standard "exercise and eat right:.  But when it
>>>> comes to defining what "eating right" means, even the experts
>>>> disagree.   Over the last eight years, I've lost over 100 pounds,
>>>> weight I gained not from over-eating but because of a pituitary tumor.
>>>> I've educated myself as much as possible on all aspects of dealing
>>>> with obesity, so I laughed out loud when during my last hospital visit
>>>> the nutritionist came in the latest food pyramid as if it was the
>>>> Bible.  So wrong in so many ways.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it's more accurate to say that if they were able to motivate
>>>>> themselves they would lose weight. Surely every single person in the
>>>>> Western world knows how to lose weight.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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