At 1:37 PM +0000 12/20/02, Mr piyush shah wrote: >Dear friends >It has been quite long that I have been hearing >whether CCIE is superior or MS. I thing it is high >time we should wrap the topic.I dont understand >,whether why this forum for ? It should b a purely >technical. For a typically type of questioning like >this, there are resposes which lasts for weeks but >there are some questions for whom nobody seems to be >bothered ? >There was a queation which was thrown on this on >TACACS ACS whether What could the issue that I am >able to authenticate and not authorisation ,not a >single person on this site bothered to answered ,not >even Priscilla .
Let's consider whether people "bother to respond." First, remember that everyone who does so is volunteering their time. They are not a substitute for the TAC or reference materials. Have you considered that at the time you asked the question, Priscilla might be on vacation, another expert has limited list access while on business travel (perhaps behind a strict firewall), and two others are trying to finish projects for which they are paid? The latter might scan the list, but not have 10-30 minutes to write a post. Indeed, many of those experts do not have the answer memorized, but would have to look it up -- admittedly much faster than would a beginner. >Which sounds to be very starnge. There are so many >people who r new to networking tech ,hence comes with >some querry which might b stupid to some of our >colleages but pls ensure that u were also like them >during your initial phase , The following is not meant to be a put-down, but a reality of how some people started in networking technology. I was first responsible for a network in 1970, using Bell 100 series modems (300 bps) to a PDP-11 running critical medical applications. Most links were acoustically coupled dialups, but we did have a few dedicated lines (again at 300 bps). With about 10 user ports on the machine, we sometimes just ran out. Since one of the dedicated lines was only needed for backups at night, and another for reporting, I realized I could switch them to dialup during the day. There was no Black Box Catalog or the like. I needed to get a copy of RS-232 and learn the wiring, decide how many pins I had to switch, go to the electronics store and get an appropriate rotary switch and other components, and physically build the box, soldering the wires to the switch. I made some incorrect assumptions the first time, and had to use electronic test instruments to find what I had done wrong -- it turned out I wasn't clear about the functions of the Pin 1 and Pin 7 grounds. At the same time all of this was going on, I was the head of software development for the medical applications, so needed to both design, write, and manage development, as well as researching expert system rules for blood banking and clinical chemistry. So no, not everyone had the luxury of a list or even colleagues. >hence try to rectify the >querry rather than spending your precious time on >stupid questions like " ccie is superior or MS , what >is the salary of CCIE ? " And I will be perfectly honest. Sometimes, I may be in a hurry when reading the list, and there's a "stupid question" that I can answer from personal experience. Even when I answer a technical question with which I am very familiar, I often check the documentation -- Cisco or IETF -- to be sure I'm referring to the right document. On another list, for example, there was a DNS question. I knew the answer was in RFC 1033, 1034, or 1035, but wasn't sure which, and didn't have time to look it up. I cited the three documents, and said I _thought_ it was 1034. Looking it up later, it was 1035. >I hope the message is clear to everybody >Regards > >PIYUSH > > > > >Note: forwarded message attached. > >________________________________________________________________________ >Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. > visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com >X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web8002.mail.in.yahoo.com; > 20 Dec 2002 07:36:38 +0500 (IST) >Return-Path: >X-Track: 1: 100 >Return-Path: >Received: from groupstudy.com (66.220.63.9) by mta102.in.mail.yahoo.com > with SMTP; 20 Dec 2002 07:34:44 +0500 (IST) >Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by groupstudy.com > (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA32069; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:04:32 GMT >Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 20 Dec 2002 > 01:26:50 +0000 >Received: (from listserver@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > BAA23691 GroupStudy Mailer; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:26:48 GMT >Received: (from nobody@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > BAA23686 GroupStudy Mailer; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:26:48 GMT >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:26:48 GMT >From: "Charlie Wehner" >X-GroupStudy-Version: 3.1.1a >X-GroupStudy: Network Technical >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481] >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: "Charlie Wehner" >Precedence: bulk >Content-Length: 925 > >What's more difficult? > >a) Memorizing configuration scenerios and commands on a Cisco router > >b) Understanding Calculus, Differential Equations, Numerical Analysis, >Chemistry, Physics and Electrical Engineering well enough to create a >"meaningful" experiment. > >One of my friends is working on his masters in Physics right now. What he's >working on makes the CCIE look like a walk through the park. > >Seriously, what if the recommended reading list for the CCIE exam looked >like this: > >Physics I and II >Calculus I,II,III >Differential Equations >Mechanics >Circuit Analysis I and II >Linear Systems >Thermodynamics >Quantum Mechanics >Optics Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=59611&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
