Hi All I think the CCIE is a narrow focus as compared to a degree. What a person does or would like to do with either will determine which is the better route for that individual. It is going to be up to the individual and what he/she is looking to do in the future.
You can get your CCIE but if you can't do the job your not going to get the 100,000.00 year position. You can also get the BS or MS and work at Burger World. The one problem I see is people with a CCIE are Network specific and to change to another branch of IT you will most likely need to get another cert. I see someone with a BS or MS being much more mobile as far as crossing departments if you will. I for example have been working in IT for 17 years. I have gone through numerous departments over the years. I started as a programmer, then to support and Help Desk, then to Network Operations. Network Operations is where I want to be. I don't have a Bachelors degree and don't want one. I have no aspirations of being a CIO, etc. I want to be hands on andSecurityork Secutity consulting, that's what I enjoy doing. So for me the CCIE is the next step. I see more value for me in the CISSP and CCIE certifications because I have experience to back up my certs which gets me into positions I want. I can get the Job done. There are however doors which will not open to me because I don't have the degree. Some Companies just won't even look at you if you don't have the Degree. I'm ok with that, I just don't work for companies who want a Degree over ExperienceBeurocracieson't work well in their Beurocracies anyway. Just my 2 cents. Regards Sal DiStefano --- "Ladrach, Daniel E." wrote: > I think the key is to know what you are going to college for. I Have A > degree from The Ohio State University, Max Fisher College of Business in > MIS. I also, am enrolled at Franklin University MBA in MIS. Lastly,I admit > to having my CCNP (working on CCDP). Of all the tests I have taken over the > years the Cisco exams are by far the easiest. I think we need to be > realistic when comparing Certs Vs. Education. It took me 4 months to get my > CCNP it took me 6 Years to get my education. The CCIE would probably take me > as long to prepare for as my MBA; however, I think the MBA will open up far > more doors. > > Calculus, Physics, Finance, Accounting, Economics to name a few to receive a > degree. Remember you don't just take one of each you take several. > > I agree with the course load listed in the e-mail below. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J.D. Chaiken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481] > > > > > > If that were the real reading list for a BS degree, I would > > *LOVE* it. My problem is that they make you read all the > > fluffy stuff that you never wanted to read in the first > > place, and didnt go to college for, but they make you read anyway. > > > > And further, lets say you were an english major, do you > > really think that Calculus I would help you there? > > > > Jarett > > > > ""Charlie Wehner"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > What's more difficult? > > > > > > a) Memorizing configuration scenerios and commands on a Cisco router > > > > > > b) Understanding Calculus, Differential Equations, > > Numerical Analysis, > > > Chemistry, Physics and Electrical Engineering well enough > > to create a > > > "meaningful" experiment. > > > > > > One of my friends is working on his masters in Physics right now. > > > What > > he's > > > working on makes the CCIE look like a walk through the park. > > > > > > Seriously, what if the recommended reading list for the CCIE exam > > > looked like this: > > > > > > Physics I and II > > > Calculus I,II,III > > > Differential Equations > > > Mechanics > > > Circuit Analysis I and II > > > Linear Systems > > > Thermodynamics > > > Quantum Mechanics > > > Optics > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=59801&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
