Hi, The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a > release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just > been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...".
Yes, exactly. Everyone is using maven, and even I am annoyed when I try to use this library in another machine for the first time, since there is no repo for maven to download it. IMHO, having release cycles for the project would be really great. I also know the project needs more effort, but first thing we need is feedback. we should re-visit the option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. > tomahawk-sandbox). If you think this way is better for the project, then IMHO it is also OK. I think this would be an advantage for the project if more people are going to participate. But what are the advantages of moving into sandbox? Or, I should ask, what are the concerns with the current way? If we clear this, we can easily decide :) Cheers, Ali On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Gerhard Petracek < gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > @grant: +1 > > regards, > gerhard > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > 2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com> > >> I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this very >> purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more often and vote >> on components that are ready to "graduate". >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek < >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> hi leo, >>> >>> imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< say >>> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the situation >>> changed). >>> >>> regards, >>> gerhard >>> >>> http://www.irian.at >>> >>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>> Courses in English and German >>> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't >>>> never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know if >>>> the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what to >>>> do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a >>>> release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just >>>> been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I think >>>> that is enough clear. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Leonardo Uribe >>>> >>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >>>> > hi ali, >>>> > most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that didn't >>>> look >>>> > very promising. >>>> > it's great to hear that you plan to continue. >>>> > however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should re-visit >>>> the >>>> > option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. tomahawk-sandbox). >>>> > regards, >>>> > gerhard >>>> > >>>> > http://www.irian.at >>>> > >>>> > Your JSF powerhouse - >>>> > JSF Consulting, Development and >>>> > Courses in English and German >>>> > >>>> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release. >>>> >> Yes, it would be good discussing the future. >>>> >> >>>> >> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only ones at >>>> the >>>> >> moment. >>>> >> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the progress is >>>> >> slow. I think it will be like this for a while. >>>> >> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in the >>>> issue >>>> >> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough feedback, >>>> since I >>>> >> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and not >>>> everyone >>>> >> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who are >>>> >> experimenting with Html5. >>>> >> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of the >>>> box, >>>> >> but it is really hard to implement. >>>> >> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am willing >>>> to >>>> >> work, but I can say I can spare limited time. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >>>> >>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >>>> >> >>>> >> I agree. >>>> >> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people will >>>> hear >>>> >> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback. >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> Ali >>>> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> +1 >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >>>> >>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Leonardo Uribe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of this >>>> >>>>> module. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> regards, >>>> >>>>> gerhard >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>> >>>>> Courses in English and German >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 next >>>> week. >>>> >>>>>> The site for this project is: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/ >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Grant Smith - V.P. 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