hi ali,

@maven dependency:
we can deploy a snapshot to the (maven) snapshot-repository at any time.

@release cycle:
that won't change with tomahawk.

regards,
gerhard

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2011/10/22 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr>

> Hi,
>
> The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a
>> release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just
>> been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...".
>
>
> Yes, exactly. Everyone is using maven, and even I am annoyed when I try to
> use this library in another machine for the first time, since there is no
> repo for maven to download it.
> IMHO, having release cycles for the project would be really great. I also
> know the project needs more effort, but first thing we need is feedback.
>
>  we should re-visit the option to move the components to tomahawk (btw.
>> tomahawk-sandbox).
>
>
> If you think this way is better for the project, then IMHO it is also OK. I
> think this would be an advantage for the project if more people are going to
> participate.
> But what are the advantages of moving into sandbox?
> Or, I should ask, what are the concerns with the current way?
>
> If we clear this, we can easily decide :)
>
> Cheers,
> Ali
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @grant: +1
>>
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>>
>> http://www.irian.at
>>
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>>
>> 2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this
>>> very purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more often and
>>> vote on components that are ready to "graduate".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
>>> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi leo,
>>>>
>>>> imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< say
>>>> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the situation
>>>> changed).
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> gerhard
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't
>>>>> never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know if
>>>>> the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what to
>>>>> do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a
>>>>> release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just
>>>>> been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I think
>>>>> that is enough clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> > hi ali,
>>>>> > most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that
>>>>> didn't look
>>>>> > very promising.
>>>>> > it's great to hear that you plan to continue.
>>>>> > however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should re-visit
>>>>> the
>>>>> > option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. tomahawk-sandbox).
>>>>> > regards,
>>>>> > gerhard
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.irian.at
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>> > JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>> > Courses in English and German
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release.
>>>>> >> Yes, it would be good discussing the future.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only ones
>>>>> at the
>>>>> >> moment.
>>>>> >> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the progress
>>>>> is
>>>>> >> slow. I think it will be like this for a while.
>>>>> >> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in the
>>>>> issue
>>>>> >> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough feedback,
>>>>> since I
>>>>> >> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and not
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> >> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who are
>>>>> >> experimenting with Html5.
>>>>> >> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of the
>>>>> box,
>>>>> >> but it is really hard to implement.
>>>>> >> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am willing
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> work, but I can say I can spare limited time.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha
>>>>> >>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I agree.
>>>>> >> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people will
>>>>> hear
>>>>> >> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback.
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> Ali
>>>>> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> +1
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Hi
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha
>>>>> >>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> regards,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of this
>>>>> >>>>> module.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> regards,
>>>>> >>>>> gerhard
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>>>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>>>> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Hi
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 next
>>>>> week.
>>>>> >>>>>> The site for this project is:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> regards,
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Leonardo Uribe
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Marathon Computer Systems, LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>
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