Ha, I don't think we should wait for the jsf-eg. Hey guys they are asking for a alpha release. In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it should not be part of the tomahawk project.
I don't see any problems in releasing an alpha release. But before a beta we should decide own extension or tomahawk. Regards Bernd On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > it's planned that jsf2.2 will get some sort of html5 support. > imo we should work together with the jsf-eg to ensure that we won't promote > incompatible components. > regards, > gerhard > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > 2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >> >> +1 for moving it to tomahawk. >> >> One big open question for me is our html5 strategy at all. >> >> Will the html5 components provide legacy html support themselfs? >> Thus a calendar component will use jQuery (or whatever) calendar when a >> non-html5 browser is detected, >> or is this in the responsibility of the developer? >> >> if (html5){ >> aaaa >> >> } else{ >> bbbb //fallback >> >> } >> >> ? >> >> Afaik our current html5 components 'only' support pure html5 rendering, >> isn't? >> >> >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:22 PM >> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 >> > >> > >> >@grant: +1 >> > >> > >> >regards, >> >gerhard >> > >> > >> >http://www.irian.at >> > >> >Your JSF powerhouse - >> >JSF Consulting, Development and >> >Courses in English and German >> > >> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com> >> > >> >I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this >> > very purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more often and >> > vote on components that are ready to "graduate". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek >> >> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>hi leo, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< say >> >>> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the situation >> >>> changed). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>regards, >> >>>gerhard >> >>> >> >>>http://www.irian.at >> >>> >> >>>Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>Courses in English and German >> >>> >> >>>Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >>>Hi >> >>>> >> >>>>The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't >> >>>>never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know if >> >>>>the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what to >> >>>>do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a >> >>>>release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just >> >>>>been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I think >> >>>>that is enough clear. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>regards, >> >>>> >> >>>>Leonardo Uribe >> >>>> >> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>> hi ali, >> >>>>> most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that >> >>>>> didn't look >> >>>>> very promising. >> >>>>> it's great to hear that you plan to continue. >> >>>>> however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should re-visit >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. tomahawk-sandbox). >> >>>>> regards, >> >>>>> gerhard >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release. >> >>>>>> Yes, it would be good discussing the future. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only ones >> >>>>>> at the >> >>>>>> moment. >> >>>>>> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the progress >> >>>>>> is >> >>>>>> slow. I think it will be like this for a while. >> >>>>>> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in the >> >>>>>> issue >> >>>>>> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough feedback, >> >>>>>> since I >> >>>>>> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and not >> >>>>>> everyone >> >>>>>> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who are >> >>>>>> experimenting with Html5. >> >>>>>> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of the >> >>>>>> box, >> >>>>>> but it is really hard to implement. >> >>>>>> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am >> >>>>>> willing to >> >>>>>> work, but I can say I can spare limited time. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >> >>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I agree. >> >>>>>> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people >> >>>>>> will hear >> >>>>>> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback. >> >>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>> Ali >> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz >> >>>>>> <werner.p...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> +1 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >> >>>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of this >> >>>>>>>>> module. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>>>>>>> gerhard >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>>>>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 next >> >>>>>>>>>> week. >> >>>>>>>>>> The site for this project is: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/ >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Grant Smith - V.P. 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