it's planned that jsf2.2 will get some sort of html5 support.
imo we should work together with the jsf-eg to ensure that we won't promote
incompatible components.

regards,
gerhard

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2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>

> +1 for moving it to tomahawk.
>
> One big open question for me is our html5 strategy at all.
>
> Will the html5 components provide legacy html support themselfs?
> Thus a calendar component will use jQuery (or whatever) calendar when a
> non-html5 browser is detected,
> or is this in the responsibility of the developer?
>
> if (html5){
> aaaa
>
> } else{
>  bbbb //fallback
>
> }
>
> ?
>
> Afaik our current html5 components 'only' support pure html5 rendering,
> isn't?
>
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:22 PM
> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5
> >
> >
> >@grant: +1
> >
> >
> >regards,
> >gerhard
> >
> >
> >http://www.irian.at
> >
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> >
> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com>
> >
> >I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this very
> purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more often and vote
> on components that are ready to "graduate".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>hi leo,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< say
> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the situation
> changed).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>regards,
> >>>gerhard
> >>>
> >>>http://www.irian.at
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>Hi
> >>>>
> >>>>The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't
> >>>>never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know if
> >>>>the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what to
> >>>>do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a
> >>>>release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just
> >>>>been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I think
> >>>>that is enough clear.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Leonardo Uribe
> >>>>
> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>> hi ali,
> >>>>> most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that
> didn't look
> >>>>> very promising.
> >>>>> it's great to hear that you plan to continue.
> >>>>> however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should re-visit
> the
> >>>>> option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. tomahawk-sandbox).
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
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> >>>>> Courses in English and German
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> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release.
> >>>>>> Yes, it would be good discussing the future.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only ones
> at the
> >>>>>> moment.
> >>>>>> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the progress
> is
> >>>>>> slow. I think it will be like this for a while.
> >>>>>> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in the
> issue
> >>>>>> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough feedback,
> since I
> >>>>>> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and not
> everyone
> >>>>>> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who are
> >>>>>> experimenting with Html5.
> >>>>>> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of the
> box,
> >>>>>> but it is really hard to implement.
> >>>>>> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am willing
> to
> >>>>>> work, but I can say I can spare limited time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha
> >>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people will
> hear
> >>>>>> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback.
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Ali
> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha
> >>>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of this
> >>>>>>>>> module.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>>> gerhard
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 next
> week.
> >>>>>>>>>> The site for this project is:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr
> >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Grant Smith - V.P. Information Technology
> >>Marathon Computer Systems, LLC.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

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