Hi, So do you think myfaces/incubator/html5 is a good place?
Greetings, Ali On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> wrote: > Hi, > > In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it should not be part of > > the tomahawk project > > I agree, no relation with Tomahawk. > > a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator for new project-ideas >> (esp. for gsoc projects). > > Makes more sense to me than Tomahawk. > > I think (almost) everyone is in favor of moving the project to somewhere > else, I am also ok with it. > Important thing for the project is having the ability for releases and the > jars are deployed to maven repo. > > Cheers, > Ali > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > >> including our very own little 'attic' :) >> >> Actually the big difference between the incubator and a mf subproject >> would be the IP clearance. We really need to do this upfront before >> importing. >> But actually I like this much more than having projects developed outside >> and only later brought into our SVN - because this causes lots of paperwork >> (gas grants and a IP clearance review is mandatory). >> >> Thus a +1 >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >> >Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:58 AM >> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 >> > >> > >> >a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator for new >> project-ideas (esp. for gsoc projects). >> >we can release parts easily and drop them if we see that something >> doesn't work for our community. if an idea works for the community, we can >> discuss the correct place for it. >> > >> > >> >we might see new gsoc projects (related to myfaces) every year. imo it's >> the wrong approach to just add them as new sub-project and we don't have >> the resources/community to maintain them. >> > >> > >> >regards, >> >gerhard >> > >> >http://www.irian.at >> > >> >Your JSF powerhouse - >> >JSF Consulting, Development and >> >Courses in English and German >> > >> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >2011/10/22 Bernd Bohmann <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> >> > >> >Ha, I don't think we should wait for the jsf-eg. >> >> >> >>Hey guys they are asking for a alpha release. >> >>In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it should not be part of >> >>the tomahawk project. >> >> >> >>I don't see any problems in releasing an alpha release. But before a >> >>beta we should decide own extension or tomahawk. >> >> >> >>Regards >> >> >> >>Bernd >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Gerhard Petracek >> >><gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> it's planned that jsf2.2 will get some sort of html5 support. >> >>> imo we should work together with the jsf-eg to ensure that we won't >> promote >> >>> incompatible components. >> >>> regards, >> >>> gerhard >> >>> >> >>> http://www.irian.at >> >>> >> >>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>> Courses in English and German >> >>> >> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >> >>>> >> >>>> +1 for moving it to tomahawk. >> >>>> >> >>>> One big open question for me is our html5 strategy at all. >> >>>> >> >>>> Will the html5 components provide legacy html support themselfs? >> >>>> Thus a calendar component will use jQuery (or whatever) calendar >> when a >> >>>> non-html5 browser is detected, >> >>>> or is this in the responsibility of the developer? >> >>>> >> >>>> if (html5){ >> >>>> aaaa >> >>>> >> >>>> } else{ >> >>>> bbbb //fallback >> >>>> >> >>>> } >> >>>> >> >>>> ? >> >>>> >> >>>> Afaik our current html5 components 'only' support pure html5 >> rendering, >> >>>> isn't? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> LieGrue, >> >>>> strub >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >________________________________ >> >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >> >>>> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:22 PM >> >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >@grant: +1 >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >regards, >> >>>> >gerhard >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >http://www.irian.at >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>> >Courses in English and German >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for >> this >> >>>> > very purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more >> often and >> >>>> > vote on components that are ready to "graduate". >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek >> >>>> >> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>hi leo, >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >> >don't< say >> >>>> >>> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the >> situation >> >>>> >>> changed). >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>regards, >> >>>> >>>gerhard >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>http://www.irian.at >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>> >>>JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>> >>>Courses in English and German >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>Hi >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't >> >>>> >>>>never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to >> know if >> >>>> >>>>the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide >> what to >> >>>> >>>>do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a >> >>>> >>>>release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has >> just >> >>>> >>>>been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I >> think >> >>>> >>>>that is enough clear. >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>regards, >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>Leonardo Uribe >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> >>>> >>>>> hi ali, >> >>>> >>>>> most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that >> >>>> >>>>> didn't look >> >>>> >>>>> very promising. >> >>>> >>>>> it's great to hear that you plan to continue. >> >>>> >>>>> however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should >> re-visit >> >>>> >>>>> the >> >>>> >>>>> option to move the components to tomahawk >> (btw. tomahawk-sandbox). >> >>>> >>>>> regards, >> >>>> >>>>> gerhard >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>> >>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>> >>>>>> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release. >> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, it would be good discussing the future. >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only >> ones >> >>>> >>>>>> at the >> >>>> >>>>>> moment. >> >>>> >>>>>> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the >> progress >> >>>> >>>>>> is >> >>>> >>>>>> slow. I think it will be like this for a while. >> >>>> >>>>>> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already >> in the >> >>>> >>>>>> issue >> >>>> >>>>>> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough >> feedback, >> >>>> >>>>>> since I >> >>>> >>>>>> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and >> not >> >>>> >>>>>> everyone >> >>>> >>>>>> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts >> who are >> >>>> >>>>>> experimenting with Html5. >> >>>> >>>>>> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out >> of the >> >>>> >>>>>> box, >> >>>> >>>>>> but it is really hard to implement. >> >>>> >>>>>> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am >> >>>> >>>>>> willing to >> >>>> >>>>>> work, but I can say I can spare limited time. >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an >> alpha >> >>>> >>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> I agree. >> >>>> >>>>>> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more >> people >> >>>> >>>>>> will hear >> >>>> >>>>>> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback. >> >>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >>>>>> Ali >> >>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz >> >>>> >>>>>> <werner.p...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> +1 >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe: >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an >> alpha >> >>>> >>>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future >> of this >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> module. >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> gerhard >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Courses in English and German >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 >> next >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> week. >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> The site for this project is: >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/ >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps. >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> -- >> >>>> >>>>>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >> >>>> >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>-- >> >>>> >>Grant Smith - V.P. 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