Hi, In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it should not be part of
the tomahawk project I agree, no relation with Tomahawk. a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator for new project-ideas > (esp. for gsoc projects). Makes more sense to me than Tomahawk. I think (almost) everyone is in favor of moving the project to somewhere else, I am also ok with it. Important thing for the project is having the ability for releases and the jars are deployed to maven repo. Cheers, Ali On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > including our very own little 'attic' :) > > Actually the big difference between the incubator and a mf subproject would > be the IP clearance. We really need to do this upfront before importing. > But actually I like this much more than having projects developed outside > and only later brought into our SVN - because this causes lots of paperwork > (gas grants and a IP clearance review is mandatory). > > Thus a +1 > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> > >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> > >Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:58 AM > >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 > > > > > >a different idea would be a small myfaces-incubator for new project-ideas > (esp. for gsoc projects). > >we can release parts easily and drop them if we see that something doesn't > work for our community. if an idea works for the community, we can discuss > the correct place for it. > > > > > >we might see new gsoc projects (related to myfaces) every year. imo it's > the wrong approach to just add them as new sub-project and we don't have the > resources/community to maintain them. > > > > > >regards, > >gerhard > > > >http://www.irian.at > > > >Your JSF powerhouse - > >JSF Consulting, Development and > >Courses in English and German > > > >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > >2011/10/22 Bernd Bohmann <bernd.bohm...@atanion.com> > > > >Ha, I don't think we should wait for the jsf-eg. > >> > >>Hey guys they are asking for a alpha release. > >>In my opinion as long this lib is html5 only it should not be part of > >>the tomahawk project. > >> > >>I don't see any problems in releasing an alpha release. But before a > >>beta we should decide own extension or tomahawk. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Bernd > >> > >> > >>On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Gerhard Petracek > >><gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> it's planned that jsf2.2 will get some sort of html5 support. > >>> imo we should work together with the jsf-eg to ensure that we won't > promote > >>> incompatible components. > >>> regards, > >>> gerhard > >>> > >>> http://www.irian.at > >>> > >>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >>> Courses in English and German > >>> > >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2011/10/22 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > >>>> > >>>> +1 for moving it to tomahawk. > >>>> > >>>> One big open question for me is our html5 strategy at all. > >>>> > >>>> Will the html5 components provide legacy html support themselfs? > >>>> Thus a calendar component will use jQuery (or whatever) calendar when > a > >>>> non-html5 browser is detected, > >>>> or is this in the responsibility of the developer? > >>>> > >>>> if (html5){ > >>>> aaaa > >>>> > >>>> } else{ > >>>> bbbb //fallback > >>>> > >>>> } > >>>> > >>>> ? > >>>> > >>>> Afaik our current html5 components 'only' support pure html5 > rendering, > >>>> isn't? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> LieGrue, > >>>> strub > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >________________________________ > >>>> >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> > >>>> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> > >>>> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:22 PM > >>>> >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >@grant: +1 > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >regards, > >>>> >gerhard > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >http://www.irian.at > >>>> > > >>>> >Your JSF powerhouse - > >>>> >JSF Consulting, Development and > >>>> >Courses in English and German > >>>> > > >>>> >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com> > >>>> > > >>>> >I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this > >>>> > very purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more > often and > >>>> > vote on components that are ready to "graduate". > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek > >>>> >> <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >>hi leo, > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< > say > >>>> >>> -1. my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the > situation > >>>> >>> changed). > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>regards, > >>>> >>>gerhard > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>http://www.irian.at > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Your JSF powerhouse - > >>>> >>>JSF Consulting, Development and > >>>> >>>Courses in English and German > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Hi > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>>The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't > >>>> >>>>never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know > if > >>>> >>>>the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what > to > >>>> >>>>do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a > >>>> >>>>release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has > just > >>>> >>>>been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I > think > >>>> >>>>that is enough clear. > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>>regards, > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>>Leonardo Uribe > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: > >>>> >>>>> hi ali, > >>>> >>>>> most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that > >>>> >>>>> didn't look > >>>> >>>>> very promising. > >>>> >>>>> it's great to hear that you plan to continue. > >>>> >>>>> however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should > re-visit > >>>> >>>>> the > >>>> >>>>> option to move the components to tomahawk > (btw. tomahawk-sandbox). > >>>> >>>>> regards, > >>>> >>>>> gerhard > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >>>> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >>>> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> Hi, > >>>> >>>>>> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release. > >>>> >>>>>> Yes, it would be good discussing the future. > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only > ones > >>>> >>>>>> at the > >>>> >>>>>> moment. > >>>> >>>>>> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the > progress > >>>> >>>>>> is > >>>> >>>>>> slow. I think it will be like this for a while. > >>>> >>>>>> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in > the > >>>> >>>>>> issue > >>>> >>>>>> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough > feedback, > >>>> >>>>>> since I > >>>> >>>>>> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and > not > >>>> >>>>>> everyone > >>>> >>>>>> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who > are > >>>> >>>>>> experimenting with Html5. > >>>> >>>>>> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of > the > >>>> >>>>>> box, > >>>> >>>>>> but it is really hard to implement. > >>>> >>>>>> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am > >>>> >>>>>> willing to > >>>> >>>>>> work, but I can say I can spare limited time. > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an > alpha > >>>> >>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> I agree. > >>>> >>>>>> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people > >>>> >>>>>> will hear > >>>> >>>>>> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback. > >>>> >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>> >>>>>> Ali > >>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz > >>>> >>>>>> <werner.p...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>>>>> wrote: > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> +1 > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe: > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Hi > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an > alpha > >>>> >>>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of > this > >>>> >>>>>>>>> module. > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>> >>>>>>>>> gerhard > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >>>> >>>>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >>>> >>>>>>>>> Courses in English and German > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 > next > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> week. > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> The site for this project is: > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/ > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps. > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> -- > >>>> >>>>>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr > >>>> >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>-- > >>>> >>Grant Smith - V.P. 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