+1 for moving it to tomahawk. One big open question for me is our html5 strategy at all.
Will the html5 components provide legacy html support themselfs? Thus a calendar component will use jQuery (or whatever) calendar when a non-html5 browser is detected, or is this in the responsibility of the developer? if (html5){ aaaa } else{ bbbb //fallback } ? Afaik our current html5 components 'only' support pure html5 rendering, isn't? LieGrue, strub >________________________________ >From: Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> >To: MyFaces Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [html5] alpha release for myfaces html5 > > >@grant: +1 > > >regards, >gerhard > > >http://www.irian.at > >Your JSF powerhouse - >JSF Consulting, Development and >Courses in English and German > >Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > >2011/10/21 Grant Smith <work.gr...@gmail.com> > >I must agree with Gerhard. The whole point of the sandbox is for this very >purpose. However, perhaps we should look at the sandbox more often and vote on >components that are ready to "graduate". >> >> >> >>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek >><gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>hi leo, >>> >>> >>>imo such an argument doesn't justify an own sub-project. i >don't< say -1. >>>my point is that we should discuss it (esp. because the situation changed). >>> >>> >>>regards, >>>gerhard >>> >>>http://www.irian.at >>> >>>Your JSF powerhouse - >>>JSF Consulting, Development and >>>Courses in English and German >>> >>>Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >>> >>>2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> >>> >>>Hi >>>> >>>>The problem with move to tomahawk sandbox is those artifact can't >>>>never be released. Do an alpha release give us the chance to know if >>>>the bits are good enough, get more feedback, and later decide what to >>>>do. The truth is some people only test some artifacts "after" a >>>>release. Do it as an alpha release means "... software that has just >>>>been compiled and ready for its initial test inhouse. ...". I think >>>>that is enough clear. >>>> >>>> >>>>regards, >>>> >>>>Leonardo Uribe >>>> >>>>2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >>>>> hi ali, >>>>> most commits happened "directly" after the initial import. that didn't >>>>> look >>>>> very promising. >>>>> it's great to hear that you plan to continue. >>>>> however, since we haven't seen a lot of activity, we should re-visit the >>>>> option to move the components to tomahawk (btw. tomahawk-sandbox). >>>>> regards, >>>>> gerhard >>>>> >>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>>> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>>> Courses in English and German >>>>> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/10/21 Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Thank you Leonardo for volunteering in the release. >>>>>> Yes, it would be good discussing the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am still working on the project. Leonardo and I am the only ones at the >>>>>> moment. >>>>>> I am trying to work on the project 1 night a week, so the progress is >>>>>> slow. I think it will be like this for a while. >>>>>> We have a few issues to fix / features to implement already in the issue >>>>>> tracker, and I am going to add more. There isn't enough feedback, since I >>>>>> guess Html5 stuff is still not supported by every browser and not >>>>>> everyone >>>>>> can use them. So the user profile is more like enthusiasts who are >>>>>> experimenting with Html5. >>>>>> What we could do is providing fallback for old browsers out of the box, >>>>>> but it is really hard to implement. >>>>>> About the future: there is a lot to do in this area and I am willing to >>>>>> work, but I can say I can spare limited time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree. >>>>>> I am pretty sure a release is good for the project, more people will hear >>>>>> about it; and hopefully we can get some feedback. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ali >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 10/21/11 7:56 PM, schrieb Leonardo Uribe: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's the intention of this mail. I think we should do an alpha >>>>>>>> release. I don't see reasons to block a release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Gerhard Petracek<gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> before we release it, we should (imo) discuss the future of this >>>>>>>>> module. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> gerhard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>>>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>>>>>>> Courses in English and German >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/10/21 Leonardo Uribe<lu4...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It could be good to do an alpha release of myfaces html5 next week. >>>>>>>>>> The site for this project is: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://myfaces.apache.org/html5/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If no objections I'll do the necessary steps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Leonardo Uribe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> My Blog: http://blog.aliok.com.tr >>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/aliok_tr >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>Grant Smith - V.P. 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