--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 <no_re...@...> wrote: > > bravo!
I don't think I really understand what your "bravo" statement refers to? Is it out of line to ask a person making claims to provide some evidence? The whole idea that Joitish is a "science" but is not for people with a bias against it is worthy of challenge IMO. The use of the term "science" is being used to influence credibility in the reader. It implies that the methods of science are being employed. And those methods are specifically designed to limit the influence of bias as a factor. Of course John is free to ignore such requests, but I don't understand why his response is "bravo!" worthy. Let's say he was representing a purely subjective psychic perspective. He had a vision of this guy's health complaint and stated an opinion. In my worldview that is not making a scientific claim, so it isn't really worth testing or challenging. We all use our subjective intuition from our experience. I lost a dear friend to this condition, so I am very biased in my opinion towards quick aggressive treatment. My opinion is really not worth much and I don't get to ride on the enhanced credibility of the term "science" if I make my opinion known. When the term "science" is used, it is for its spin effect of requesting more credibility than if he said "I had a dream", or "this is my personal opinion shaped by my limited experiences". What is wrong with using some of the methods of the involked "science" to determine if it is more than just a subjective guess? I think skepticism gets an unjustified bad name. Don't we care about that is true? All of us make personal choices about what we are going to apply skepticism to. No one here believes everything out there presented as true. We are all both skeptics and believers in our lives. I don't get what the "bravo!" was for in this case. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Your friend was born under the sign of Leo according to > jyotish > > > > rules, and the Moon is under the asterism or nakshatra of > Revati. > > > > > > > > In the main chart or rashi kundali, The 7th house signifying > the > > > > prostrate gland is under heavy malefic influence with the Sun > and > > > > Mercury in it and aspected by Mars and Saturn (both are > malefic). > > > > > > > > The subsidiary chart or navamsha kundali shows that the cancer > > > > growth is located at the entrance to the prostate gland. This > > > > area of the gland is under heavy malefic influence as well. > > > > > > > > The treatment may include surgery (due to the influence of > Mars) > > > > and radiation treatment (due to the influence of Rahu in the > > > > navamsha chart). > > > > > > > > Recommendation > > > > > > > > 1. Take aggressive action to treat the cancer growth. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > John, > > > > > > While I understand that you believe in this > > > Jyotish stuff, and actually believe that the > > > information you post above is 1) valid, 2) > > > useful, and 3) not based on having been told > > > ahead of time what the medical problem was, > > > I am less than convinced. > > > > > > So I propose another test. Here is the birth > > > data for a friend who is having a medical > > > issue. The nature of it will remain unstated, > > > for obvious reasons, but suffice it to say > > > that it is serious enough that it has required > > > and still requires attention from doctors, and > > > has the possibility of requiring surgery. > > > > > > Born: Suffern, New York, USA > > > September 18, 1965 18:06 (6:06 p.m.) > > > > > > So what is my friend's medical issue, and > > > what is the prognosis and best course of care, > > > according to Jyotish? > > > > > > Waiting with 'bated breath... > > > > > > Turq > > > > > > > Barry, > > > > In my dealings with you, I found that you have already a > predisposed > > opinion about TM and the vedic sciences which is not positive to > say > > the least. We have also noticed that no matter what the facts > are > > or what the rationales are, you continue to disbelieve in these > > sciences. So, it would not be reasonable for me to get into this > > experiment since I already know what you are thinking and that you > > are going to prove it wrong whatever I say. > > > > Jyotish is also for people who are sincerely looking for help. It > is > > not for people who have a bias against it. Given this background, > it > > would not be wise to get involved with this so called experiment-- > > which is really a set up for your own entertainment. > > > > Nonetheless, I will take a look at the chart and analyze it. If I > > see anything earth shaking, I will notify the group...or maybe not. > > > > JR > > >
