--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_re...@...> wrote: > > I agree that JohnR seems sincere. I'm not so sure about Chopra. > Who I understand does still in fact hold a medical license but > doesn't claim to practice. Go figure. > > Anyway, I am drifting. > > You claim to have seen people levitate. You are probably more > open to a Joytish claim than most other people here. :)
Not really. I actually *did* see someone levitate, hundreds of times over a period of 14 years. So did liter- ally thousands of other people. WHAT we saw and why we saw it is up for debate. But the fact that we saw it is not. It has been written about by many people in many places. Having seen it was one of the most real exper- iences of my life. As far as I can tell, Jyotish has nothing real about it. To me it's a pseudo- science that depends on the projected belief of its adherents, their gullibility, and their desire to be told the things they want to hear that keeps it going. I could be wrong about this. If JohnR manages to "see" my friend's medical condition from his perusal of the chart, I will be the first to say so. That won't "prove" that Jyotish is valid, but it'll sure raise my eyebrows, and I'll say so. The having seen someone levitating thang, however, is another ball of wax. I'm not trying to convince anyone that I have, and understand fully that I can never do that, ever. It was my subjective experience, and the subjective experience of many other students, but subjective it will stay, forever. The possibility does not exist to "prove" it one way or another, because the dude who did the floatin' is dead. But the accuracy of Jyotish CAN be proved one way or another. I have proposed such a way. Whether JohnR takes me up on it is up to him. He's the one claiming that Jyotish is a science, and worth the money people pay for it. I'm selling nothing, and championing nothing that is for sale. All I'm saying is that I was lucky enough to have seen some neat stuff. :-)