--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree that JohnR seems sincere.  I'm not so sure about Chopra.  
> > Who I understand does still in fact hold a medical license but 
> > doesn't claim to practice.  Go figure.
> > 
> > Anyway, I am drifting. 
> > 
> > You claim to have seen people levitate. You are probably more 
> > open to a Joytish claim than most other people here.  :)
> 
> Not really. 
> 
> I actually *did* see someone levitate, hundreds
> of times over a period of 14 years. So did liter-
> ally thousands of other people. 
> 
> WHAT we saw and why we saw it is up for debate.
> But the fact that we saw it is not. It has been
> written about by many people in many places.
> 
> Having seen it was one of the most real exper-
> iences of my life. As far as I can tell, Jyotish
> has nothing real about it. To me it's a pseudo-
> science that depends on the projected belief of
> its adherents, their gullibility, and their
> desire to be told the things they want to hear
> that keeps it going. 
> 
> I could be wrong about this. If JohnR manages
> to "see" my friend's medical condition from his
> perusal of the chart, I will be the first to say
> so. That won't "prove" that Jyotish is valid, but 
> it'll sure raise my eyebrows, and I'll say so.
> 
> The having seen someone levitating thang, however,
> is another ball of wax. I'm not trying to convince
> anyone that I have, and understand fully that I
> can never do that, ever. It was my subjective 
> experience, and the subjective experience of many
> other students, but subjective it will stay, forever.
> The possibility does not exist to "prove" it one
> way or another, because the dude who did the 
> floatin' is dead.
> 
> But the accuracy of Jyotish CAN be proved one way 
> or another. I have proposed such a way. Whether
> JohnR takes me up on it is up to him. He's the
> one claiming that Jyotish is a science, and worth
> the money people pay for it. I'm selling nothing,
> and championing nothing that is for sale. All I'm
> saying is that I was lucky enough to have seen 
> some neat stuff. :-)
>
My only implication was that your mind may be more open than some think. 

I for one have closed the door on Jyotish. 

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