--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > Bluscout this is concise and well said. It is my opinion and experience too. > In Fairfield, pursuit of the wider spiritual cultivation is what has been > much of the history of the last decade or so. > > Beyond transcending is what is missed with just TM. Some people look pretty > bad in fact for lack of dealing with the fitness of the subtle bodies. This > is a lot of what the saints have come around helping people with in their > spiritual progress. Bit by bit people are getting it. > > More recently John Douglas has been extremely helpful to the inner TM circle > on and around campus with this. His darshan and also the processes as > techniques he teaches are chakra based and have been very effective in a > secular way that is more generally acceptable around here. Thus far people > are not being kicked out of the domes for having seen John Douglas or > practicing his techniques. Also, thus far the people organizing for him are > still in the domes. > > And yet the various satsangs all around town attend to this more complete > growth in their programming. It's a very spiritual place in practice that > way around Fairfield in fact. On the ground. > > -Dug in FF > >
Yep it's true, on the ground here in Fairfield there is a lot of this particular discipline of spirituality going on. Working with the subtle systems more directly with intent. It's a lot of where folks have graduated on to in their practice. Look down the list of active satsangs (the FF Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups) Most all the groups are about this as an adjunct to having come here as vanilla TM'ers. There is a reality to it and there is a lot going on this way in practice and experience. Eventually science will catch up with it. But the weekly cycle of things here is full of subtle system spirituality. Saturday at the Divine Mother Church for example was a guided meditation which was particularly about this aspect of the chakra subtle system, life force and ensoulment . It was quite well done in presentation, highly knowledgeable, and particularly in facilitating the experience. On Sundays in Fairfield the meditator community's churches, synagogue and temples are quite busy with it in their different 'transcendental' quietism on the one hand and esoteric inspired ways on the other. All the various 'satsangs' are busy with it too, meditating and chanting. This goes on through the week. It's all really quite pervasive now. A high spiritual quotient that is quite nice in town. -Dug in FF The Directory of Active Spiritual Groups in Fairfield: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/265390 For instance: http://www.divinemotheronline.net/ > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > Well it would mean some are reaching the "bottom" of the ocean (TC) in > > > the bubble diagram, and others are only 'blanking out' at one of the > > > subtle waves towards the bottom, in a laya (Non-TC). > > > > This is my opinion as well: Much of what is described in TM transcending is > > only laya. Think of the sleeping elephants. They are blockages you haven't > > dealt with. You are only partly awake. Some of these blockages are the > > so-called knots associated with different chakras, so called granthis. > > > > So actually only part of the system is 'awake', the other part sleeps. The > > crucial difference is, that this partial transcending, mental laya, is not > > the awakening of the Atma, the soul. > > > > Chakras, Soul, are not mentioned in the argumentation of Lawson and Judy. > > If you mention them, they ignore it as if you have never said anything. > > Ramana Maharshi says, that in awakening, there is a very fine nadi between > > Sahasrara and heart, which gets activated, the socalled atma-nadi. Shankara > > speaks of the same in his Brahma Sutra commentary. As long as the Atma is > > not awakened, your transcendence will only be laya. You could go on with > > laya forever, it doesn't lead to the Atma. Unless you don't realize the > > Atma, according to Vedanta, there will not be any realization. > > > > > > > > > If you think "that's OK" that seems like a pretty bad rationalization to > > > accept. It's effectively resigning yourself to a limbo. > > > > > >
