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On 7 May 2008, at 22:04, Nick wrote: > whats qq mean? > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:51 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That just makes the whole idea of "offline mode" confusing. For the >> longest time, before this discussion, I swore that offline mode was >> for >> when YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION. >> >> I qq'd. >> >> >> >>> Problem with issue is that the Steam Agreement says that Valve >>> aren't >>> obliged to provide a continual, error-free service (even though >>> the Half >>> Life 2 EULA & Requirements in no way links Steam with HL2, making it >>> misleading). Not sure about the legal grounds of that kind of >>> stuff, but >>> even so, it is really, really frustrating. >>> >>> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Cory de La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah because Steam must Update first, or prepare to go offline. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Offline mode only works when you have an internet connection. I >>>>> think >>>>> it is written somewhere in the documentation... >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> I can't even start Steam if I don't have a net connection. :( >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> That description isn't actually accurate. Its perfectly possible >>>> to >>>>> play a >>>>>>> lan game where everyone uses the same steam ID, all in online >>>> mode. >>>>> The >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> time restrictions kick in are when you try to join an internet >>>> game. >>>>>>> Because >>>>>>> of this, I don't think "copy protection" is the reason for >>>> offline >>>>> mode's >>>>>>> lameness. Similarly, the 5 friends all playing at once issue you >>>>> describe >>>>>>> would work fine on online mode. The only caveat is that only one >>>> of >>>>> you >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be logged into friends at a time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the other hand, I don't have an alternative suggestion for >>>>>>> why >>>> it >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> work... :-P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> Message: 4 >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 07:56:02 +0100 >>>>>>>> From: Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Offline Mode... >>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >>>>>>>> <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> >>>>>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; >>>> delsp=yes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree, there's been a number of times that I've been offline >>>> and >>>>>>>> wanted to work on my mod, but the sdk base refuses to load into >>>> the >>>>>>>> debugger if you're offline. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the other hand, I can see why Valve don't want it to work. >>>> With >>>>>>>> other games you have to put a cd into the drive to play the >>>> game. >>>>> The >>>>>>>> idea of this is to ensure that only one user cab use the >>>> software >>>> at >>>>>>>> any one time, keeping to the one user license >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With steam, where you don't have to put a cd in, they have to >>>> ensure >>>>>>>> only one computer is logged into a particular steam account at >>>> any >>>>> one >>>>>>>> moment. When steam is online, it can tell when an account is >>>>> accessed >>>>>>>> by two computers at one. But in offline mode, they don't. What >>>> would >>>>>>>> stop me giving my HL2 cd to five of by friends, along with my >>>>> account >>>>>>>> information, and making them all use offline mode, so we could >>>> all >>>>>>>> play at once? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 May 2008, at 07:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was more than slightly annoyed when my net connection died >>>> during >>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>> weekend and I couldn't open Steam to test my mod. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I'm sitting here at work trying to fire up Steam on my >>>> laptop >>>>> (no >>>>>>>>>> active >>>>>>>>>> net connection). It comes up (expectedly) with a dialog >>>> prompting >>>>>>>>>> me to >>>>>>>>>> start in offline mode, and when I click it, I get an error >>>> message >>>>>>>>>> saying >>>>>>>>>> 'Steam cannot connect to the network' and that 'This >>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>> cannot be >>>>>>>>>> completed in offline mode'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is there ANY chance we can ***maybe*** get some at least >>>> better >>>>> error >>>>>>>>>> messages for Offline Mode, or even some better support? Its >>>> really >>>>>>>>>> bloody >>>>>>>>>> frustrating trying to do anything without a net connection >>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>> behind a >>>>>>>>>> firewall) with this kind of crappy offline mode support. I >>>> know >>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> only person who is continually pissed off about this kind of >>>>>>>>>> support. Even >>>>>>>>>> decoupling the SDK from Steam could be a nice start. Is there >>>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> can actually be done to make our lives the slightest bit >>>> easier? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I mean, how hard is it to actually code a decent offline >>>> mode... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) >>>>>>>>>> http://www.wraiyth.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gear Dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) >>> http://www.wraiyth.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
