Regardless of who created the protocol, it’s important to acknowledge that it had an effect that is actively creating harm, to the point that it’s a geostrategic concern. There are reasonable solutions that do not harm its original goal of fighting spam and spearfishing and we should pursue them. A group chartered to solve these problems can help.
==Mike > On Dec 9, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > >> On 12/9/22 6:14 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: >>> On 9 Dec 2022, at 17:00, Michael Thomas wrote: >>> >>> On 12/9/22 4:53 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: >>>> On 12/9/2022 4:41 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: >>>>> Considering that I was one of three original designers >>>> You worked on Domainkeys? >>>> >>>> When Yahoo asked me to be one of their outside reviewers, for their >>>> initial work, I don't recall your being involved. >>>> >>>> This was considerably before there was the first, direct effort to bring >>>> things to the IETF. >>>> >>> Domainkeys and IIM were convergent evolution. IIM was actually published >>> first. I produced the first DKIM implementation followed by Murray a day or >>> two later. >> DomainKeys and IIM both preceded IETF’s DKIM effort and neither of them is >> DKIM. The semantics and motivation behind a DKIM signature were determined >> by IETF consensus when it was standardized, and isn’t necessarily what the >> semantics and motivation behind a DomainKeys or IIM signature were. > > Exactly. It took some amount of energy to synthesis them. It is completely > irrelevant which came first even if it was IIM. It was teh luck of > coincidence that just a few miles down the road we from very different > vantage points can to essentially the same conclusions. Trying to make this > into some competition is gross. I for one was really heartened when I found > out about DK as it validated our thinking too. I have nothing but good > feelings for Mark. I think what we came up with was really special and it's > disgusting to try to drive a wedge between the two. > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-dkim mailing list > Ietf-dkim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim _______________________________________________ Ietf-dkim mailing list Ietf-dkim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim
