Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:33:02 -0800
From: Randy Remote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'prepare' njc

At the risk of boring everyone with philosophical dissection:

-->And at the risk of creating a confusing three-way discussion....

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I didn't say idea = truth.  Not all ideas are true.

You also said
"What do you take "truth" to be, if not an idea?"

--->You have to distinguish between the idea of truth (truth per se), and that
which is true (that which is the case).

> In other words, truth is about LANGUAGE and perhaps thought.  It is about
us.
>
> It is correct to say that the idea of a tree is not a tree.  But
> there is nothing about a tree (or a waterfall) that is connected to
> truth.

There are more meanings to the word "truth" than the meaning you
are giving it, as in 'something is true or false' (within the confines of
logical thought).
The truth is that which is. That which exists.

-----> Again, truth and that which is true are as different as "blue" and that
which is blue. One is an idea, the other an actuality.


> I would also say that an idea is not an image in the memory banks of
> the brain.

The brain, keeper of ideas, is a memory bank.

------> And so much more! It can create new knowledge from existing facts!

> The idea of "the Good" is not an image in the memory banks
> of anyone's brain.

You are saying an idea is not an idea?

------> No, I believe she is saying that an idea is more than just a memory.
It is a dynamic function of mind that allow new things to come to light.
the mind (or brain, as you prefer) has this amazing ability to abstract the
essence of things....from all blue things seen it creates the idea of
blueness.
This was Aristotle's great discovery, and it was how he turned Plato upside
down.
Thanks for this discussion. I love waking up to this stuff, starts the day on
the right foot, ya know?

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