> On Nov 22, 2025, at 03:43, John Reimann via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > In 2024 the overwhelming majority of socialists opposed voting for Biden and > then Harris.
This has nothing to do with the current thread. > Most of them hid behind the issue of Gaza, but this was dishonest. In fact, > their view was and remains that voting for a Democrat violates some sort of > historic principle and, anyway, there is not much difference between the two > parties. It is a long-held principle among revolutionary socialists to work for independent political action rather than subordinate working class interests to a bourgeois political party. It is the labor bureaucracy that has chosen the Democratic Party as their only arena of political activity, not the socialist movement. > 20 years ago one could make such a claim in regards to the difference between > the two parties, but today? These Democrats actually understand the situation > better than most socialists. How ironic! This is a frequent rant on this list, but it is a rant about nothing: There are not enough socialists in the United States to make any difference in a national election whatsoever. So why harp on it like it matters? Moreover, if you live in a red state and vote for a Democrat, your vote will be thrown away in the winner take all, gerrymandered national elections. If you live in a blue state and vote for a Democrat, then it likely also won't matter. There were only six or eight "battleground states" where a vote even makes a difference. And the minuscule number of socialists in those states won't make a difference there, either. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39422): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39422 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116410536/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
