I agree  with Eric, for consultants you should focus on skills and brains
and for employees you should focus on BRAINS.  They will be there long
enough to pick up the skills and pay you back for the time you spent
training them.  Remember smart people learn fast so it is not that much time
spent on training.  Also this will build loyalty and that translates into
lower turnover.

marc

ps I have never done any hiring in my life.


----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Strovink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 7. December 2000 12:52
Subject: Re: [certification]


> Somebody wrote:
>
> > > If I'm way off base, please let me know.  I'm spending considerable
> > > brain power on this idea and if I'm wasting it, I need to know.  I
> > > don't have much spare brain power and I could use it to try to figure
> > > out my wife . . .
>
> You're way off base.  Figure out the wife.  I've never hired a "certified"
engineer,
> and almost without exception the ones I've come across were empty sacks of
shit.
>
> In fact, I've had great success doing exactly the opposite, and *hiring
the wrong
> guy*.  Take a person who's been writing compiler back ends for the last 10
years.
> This person is constantly pigeonholed by every headhunter out there into
yet another
> compiler job, and he'd give his eye teeth to do something different.  You
hire him
> for something completely different, and he ends up being the most
enthusiastic and
> productive person you've got, because everything's new and exciting to
him.  And
> believe me, folks, if he can write the back end to a compiler, he can
figure out
> mod_perl.
>
> Or, I could hire Ferd over here, with a limp certificate from Randal
saying he's
> passed some clever little test on the six most obscure ways to <mumble>.
Uh, no
> thanks.
>
>
>
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