At 06:30 PM 12/7/2000 -0800, Rob Tanner wrote:
>--On Thursday, December 07, 2000 05:55:41 PM -0600 Jimi Thompson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>See - I KNEW IT!!!
>>
>>You aren't a PHB. You have to look at this like a PHB. PHB's don't care
>>if the
>>paper means anything relevant. PHB's live for Plausible Deniability and
>>Glory
>>Hogging. If they can't take credit for it, they don't want to get blamed
>>for it
>>either.
>>
>>If anything goes wrong, they want to be able to say that he had <fill in the
>>blank> so I thought he was qualified. On the other hand, if it does well
>>then he
>>can then take the credit because the person he hired had <fill in the blank>.
>
>That may well be true -- I won't dispute it. :-)
>
>But the real question is, and maybe this is the pivotal point of the whole
>issue -- is that the kind of place you want to work at?
>
>Where the hiring process becomes so separated from the actual work that
>you're evaluated by your certificates, you and your certificates become
>one and are interchangeable. You're no longer a whole and complete person
>and become reduced to but a "certificate" of your former self. It's a
>dehumanization, and unfortunately, a fairly wide-spread trend. On the up
>side, however, it does tell me where to not even bother applying.
I've never been in a place that only hired people with certificates. But
again, to me it's not about the certs being a boolean decision to hire or
not, it's about probabilities.
If someone doesn't have experience except they have a cert, I'll see them.
If you have no cert but you have demonstrated experience on your CV, I'll
see you.
If you have no cert and no demonstrated experience, unless I am desperate
or am willing to hire interns/juniors (which I do hire but its not
appropriate for some projects), I won't see you.
As a person doing hiring, I don't think I am alone in this matter.
So the certs, degrees, training stuff all help. And it's not dehumanizing.
It's just another factor on the CV that can help boost someone's chances of
getting noticed among all the CVs that lie and say they know Perl with
nothing to back it up.
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