I covered my suggestions in those last two posts of mine.

I HAVE to say something, and I'm **NOT** trying to "drum up 
business" for myself!!!  For one, anyone that gets a name brand 
PC is going to have to put up with this BS at at LEAST one 
time, and probably ALL of the time!  Another, is this is 
EXACTLY why I got into computers myself (first electronics in 
the mid '70's, then computers when they came out, and cars 
before that, and on and on with other things), because, if I 
wanted anything done RIGHT, I had to do it MYSELF.  I taught 
myself all of these things so I would never have to rely upon 
the total stupidity and incompetence of others.  CSR's are 
IDIOTS.  They rarely speak English, and if they do, they have 
the collective IQ of an ameba and are about as helpful a viral 
infection.  Even in my position now, I STILL am forced to rely 
upon the immoral and intellectual ineptness of suppliers. 
(Then, there's still what I have to put up with, with FedEx, 
UPS, DHL, etc., but that's another email!!  LOL!)

As you can see, it burns my a** at how companies treat their 
customers!  You pay TOO MUCH for a product, then the greedy 
******** expect you pay even more bucks just to speak with 
them......and you can't because you get the "anencephalic 
causality-loop telephone menu from hell", then you get 
disconnected, next you get "we are experiencing unusually large 
call volumes" (DUUUHHH, I wonder why!!), then if you DO happen 
to get a human, it's the BS I mentioned above once you get one! 
I treat ALL of my customers like loved friends, in fact, those 
we make custom PC's for all end up being friends!

Sounds like you finally ended up...FINALLY, finding a real 
human you COULD understand that ACTUALLY helped you.  Quite a 
rare find, consider yourself lucky....so far.  I hope it 
finally works out for you.  Like I said, try putting a bootable 
CD in the drive and boot from it, that should answer all 
questions.  Well, except for the one that how could software 
updates apparently ruin a piece of hardware.  That's just TOOOO 
coincidental for me.

(Pardon the rant, I haven't had any sleep in a while, maybe 
some will find it amusing. ;-)
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com
http://ComputersCustomBuilt.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Schnepf"

Hi Clint,

  Yes, after removing Roxio, the DVD still didn't work. A lot 
of people
are telling me that the DVD burner must have died, but it just 
seems
like too much of a coincindence to me that it died right after 
I
downloaded the update. Right before that, the same morning, I 
burned a
DVD! I didn't see an uninstall for the updates, only Roxio, so 
I don't
know if by uninstalling Roxio it uninstalled the updates, too. 
I have
since put Roxio back on, and re-installed the updates, hoping 
that it
would re-install over the "bad update" (if that is the problem) 
to fix
it, but still nothing.

  I did call Roxio's tech support.  I didn't want to pay $35 
for support
for a download of theirs that screwed up my computer, but I 
finally did
call and was willing to pay it, but was waiting on hold for 
almost an
hour for the next available representative, so I hung up. I 
called
Gateway a few times.  The first time, the girl told me that she 
could
send me the CD version of the restore DVD, but we got 
disconnected.  The
second time I got someone else who wouldn't look up anything 
and
wouldn't let me talk to the girl I was talking to, but still 
wanted to
charge me for tech support for nothing, so I hung up. Since 
then, I
called back a few times, and this is what happened. I was told 
that the
original CDs the girl was going to send me cannot be sent 
because they
are only for their company to use "in store" - not for 
customers.
Customers only can get the DVD. The last person I talked to 
really
helped me. He talked the manager into sending me a new DVD 
burner, even
though I'm a few weeks out of waranty.  They are going to send 
me a new
one, and I have to send them back my old one. That's fine with 
me.  But
to be honest, I'm still wondering if that will fix it. My 
husband works
in school, and they have a computer tech who told him that it 
could be
the laser part of the burner died, OR it could be something got 
screwed
up with the registry.  I'm going to install the new burner and 
if it
works, I'm going to reformat the hard drive with the restore 
DVD. I
already backed everything up anyway. The reason why I want to 
do this is
because I do think something got screwed up.  My Power DVD had 
to be
reinstalled after all this happened. Also, if I click on System 
Restore
to go back to an earlier point, that doesn't work either, no 
matter how
far you try to go back. All of these things were working before 
I did
the update.  If installing the new burner doesn't work, my 
husband is
going to take the computer to his job and the tech is going to 
check it
out and see what he can come up with. If he can fix it, then 
I'll even
have a new burner, too!

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
Support-OrpheusComputing.com

Are you saying that after removing Roxio, the DVD portion still
doesn't work??  This just doesn't make any sense.  Obviously,
the updates screwed something up where the DVD portion won't
work, but uninstalling Roxio should remove the updates as well
so the DVD portion should work!

That's one of the problems with name brand PC's.  One is no
support, or incompetent support, but the other is no OS CD.

Yes, you can boot from an external device, but the mobo's BIOS
must have this option to boot from an external HD.

I just don't understand this.  It's like the Roxio updates
destroyed the drive!  At least the DVD portion of it!  I don't
know what else you can do other than removing Roxio and the DVD
drive.  That didn't work, so I'm at a loss.  Once uninstalling
the Roxio software, you could scan the Registry for "Roxio",
"EMC", "ECDC", "DCD", "Easy media", etc., etc., to try and
remove ALL of it.  Then also check the "Add/remove programs"
area and see if there are any entries for Roxio, like maybe
updates.

Since Roxio has no support, they force you to rely upon others
for support.  You can do that here,
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php .  Maybe someone
there has experienced the same problem.
-Clint
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