Now I am completly confused. What is the difference between Taiga Server and opensim + modrex ? Either its to early in the morning or I just must have a massive misunderstanding.
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Tara Desoto <tarades...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > > I was simply giving my opinion to the designer of this project . I fully > realise that my point of view is going to be different than yours , simply > because of the differences between my project and yours ( if you even have > a Rex project ) .. I attempted to present a collaborative viewpoint to > the situation . Since the designers' project is about the Integration of > Blender and Realxtend , the scope of this discussion is wider than simple > asset pipelining ... In brief , I approached this topic from the aspect of > community building and collaborative integration , rather than solitary > asset pipelining. I am not saying that my points of view are any more > possible or probable than the next , given the scope of the mission . I > simply presented this to the designer in a cordial manner . IF he thinks > that all my ideas are dumb or if he thinks that some of them are good , then > so be it , I am happy that he gave me the chance to express those ideas and > expect nothing more . > > An asset creation pipeline is essential for Realxtend , there is no doubt > about it . Some Ideas are for solitary or even "offline" creative > environments and other ideas are for collaborative environments . The > logical conclusion to make in this case is that the final product will > probably be a mix between the two paradigms. You speak of creating appealing > contant , offline . Why would there even be an "offline" situation. Why > not just bring a preview grid right there with you and view the content in > world as you create it, where ever you are . > > IF you think that its "drama" to speak face to face with at least an > avatar of a person before you decide if you can work together , then you > are Naeve in the extreme as to how collaborative work gets done in this > Environment . Why did you use such obviously inflammatory words such as > "drama" , the SL crowd and the SL mindset to me anyways ? Since you > directed these comments to me , quite evidently , can you tell me how you > know for sure that anything I have ever done has been drama ? Can you tell > me how I stand for the SL mindset when I am a strident Taiga supporter > while you are not , you openly support vanilla opensim or "opensim+modrex" > which is much closer to basic SL than Taiga could ever be . You said these > things in an attempt to debase my points of view and get me all fired up, > but you failed miserably because you are clueless . While you are out > there, not even running a Taiga world grid of your own at present but > rather theorizing and bombastically pontificating your points of view . > There are others out there trying to find productive ways in which people > can leverage the platform and thus have a means of being here and creating > the amazing content that we all enjoy . Be realistic and respectful of > others . Especially when its questionable if this is truly your community > if you dont support the communities ideals . > > I am hardly the person that you need to explain the need of an asset > pipeline to . We are soo far behind in pipelining content into Rex that We > are looking at a years worth of work just to do this . > > You jump on my ideas , when I am into community building and thus making > the entire Realxtend Taiga platform stronger for all .. A grid like this > with its strong community of content creators would be interconnected to > your grid as well . Thus your grid would be stronger with a strong and > thriving community of content creators out there, backing you up ... And > yet you complain when someone brings up collaborative ideas such as this > ... Creating a situation where content can be easily accessed by simply > autonomously logging on to a grid like this would be an amazing asset to > you, and yet some of you act as if you dont even comprehend its value. > This is because you do not value and realise the proper merits of the Taiga > platform, you simply want the mesh added to opensim core . > > Your comments about SL .. > > Are very weak since at its core , the Taiga platform is built to not > function Like SL. You dont even need to register to log on to the various > seperate Taiga grids so your Hysteria about a walled SL type garden being > created in Taiga is baseless . > > The Taiga concept is an anathema to the Closed Garden concept of SL , so > why even present such basic statements to us and then act as if they are > a revalation of any sort to this community . ALL you have done is to say , > oh hey we should believe in the concept of Taiga .... To a community of > people that should already embrace this vision since it is the very very > basic conceptual idea behind Taiga ( the current known opensource realxtend > project in development ) . IF a person wanted to create a walled garden > like SL , they are certainly not going to attempt to do that in Taiga , if > they have any brains , because as we showed last week , anybody can log into > a public Taiga grid without first creating an account at each Walled > Gardens Website . > > In fact , these guys that come in here and talk about opensim+modrex are > not true parts of the Realxtend community ... They are actually part of the > opensim community and are always very careful to say Opensim+Modrex , rather > than Taiga or other word choices that describe the Realxtend concept. These > people do not embrace the Taiga Ideal , so they have to use the words > opensim+modrex , which means Vanilla opensim with a module included . Its > up to you to decide who's opinion is more valid , a person who comes into > the community, when something exciting like this happens and presents > themself as an "expert" , or a person like myself who is a part of the > community because she embraces the Rex concept in its entirity as it stands > now . I dont present myself as an expert , I present myself as a practical > user of the platform , who fully embraces the platform conceptually , as it > is . > > > These people want to take ownership and control of modrex away from the > Taiga grid concept and simply add the mesh to vanilla opensim . Many also > may passionately want this, because they want to run a solitary game > platform using the technology . Which means they are actually creating > walled gardens of there own with there games.. Which would be standing > there all alone and not interconnected like taiga grids are . For example > World of Warcraft is a walled garden just like SL is a walled garden . > > > Cool down your emotions a bit , just because I have a different view of a > world and want to try to build an active community of content creators > doesnt mean that I am the Devil herself ( IE SL ) , especially when I > fully embrace the Taiga platform , while I wonder if others do . Actually > the concept which you constantly put forth to us , ( opensim+modrex ) is > actually much closer to the SL concept than the one that I embrace (Taiga).. > This is because in Taiga is is impossible or very difficult to create an SL > type walled garden , while with Opensim+modrex it is very possible . > > -- > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > http://www.realxtend.org > -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
