Re: [digitalradio] Re: WARC band scan results.. via Multipsk/Commander

[Andy obrien]

Patrick, for the procedures i described, I am not using the SDR Direct part
of Multipsk, just the usual Multipsk with 3kHZ waterfall.

Andy K3UK

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Patrick Lindecker  wrote:

>
>
> Hello Andy,
>
>
> > It is really Commander that performs the band changes , then Multipsk
> with
> > the decode.
> However, there is a possibility to scan directly 4 frequencies from
> Multipsk
> (in the "Transceiver" window) using of course Commander.
>
>
> > So far, these two days of band scanning have only captured PSK31 signals
> > via the Panoramic feature. It has not captured any >RSIDs. I am not sure
> > if that is because there were NO RSIDs transmitted on the frequencies I
> > was scanning, or if the RS-ID >decode does not work in Multipsk when
> > Panoroamic is enabled. I will do some more testing tomorrow as I check
> > the
> If the Panoramic is started, the (SdR) RS ID does not work. I must see this
>
> point...
>
> 73
> Patrick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "obrienaj" >
> To: >
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:36 AM
> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: WARC band scan results.. via Multipsk/Commander
>
> >
>  > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Francesco Piccone" 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Andy and puts on MultiPSK to perform this function ?
> >> 73
> >> tnx
> >> Frank
> >> yv4gjn
> >
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> > It is really Commander that performs the band changes , then Multipsk
> with
> > the decode.
> >
> > 1. Set Commander to scan specific frequencies (see "config" in Commander"
> > 2. Set 'dwell" time in Commander to suit your needs (I used 120 seconds)
> > 3. Launch Multipsk, press Commander button ,at bottom of Multipsk screen
> > ,to link Commander and Multipsk for frequency information.
> > 4. in Multipsk, activate PSK reporter DLL
> > 5. In Multipsk, if interested in PSK data, choose PSK31 as the mode and
> > then press "Panoromic"
> >
> > 6. When ready to look at the signals decoded and captured, examine the
> PSK
> > reporter window in MultiPSK, you will see things like..
> > 22:26 PJ2MI PSK31 18101701
> > 21:54 G3WXC PSK31 10140894
> > 21:54 PA0DY PSK31 10141361
> > 21:49 N7UF PSK31 18102092
> >
> > So far, these two days of band scanning have only captured PSK31 signals
> > via the Panoramic feature. It has not captured any RSIDs. I am not sure
> > if that is because there were NO RSIDs transmitted on the frequencies I
> > was scanning, or if the RS-ID decode does not work in Multipsk when
> > Panoroamic is enabled. I will do some more testing tomorrow as I check
> > the frequencies suggested by Rein.
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>
> >
> > http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
> > Chat, Skeds, and "spots" all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Scanning PSKmail WARC freqs

[Andy obrien]

Rein et al.

I scanned 10147 and 18105 today for six hours, alternating every 90
seconds with a 3 Khz range.  I only picked up  three PSk250 RS IDs on
30M and NONE on 17M.  Each RS ID on 30M was not decoded well enough to
produce a callsign.  Since Muktipsk looks for a "de ** " string,
perhaps the stations were sending PSKMAIL IDs without a "de" ?  For
the last hour , I listening for 30 minutes on each frequency, listened
with my own ears.  I heard no PSK250 on 18105 .  On 30M I heard two RS
IDs and several PSK250 signals without RS ID.  perhaps not all PSK
mail servers are using RS ID yet ?

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] space to ground audio channels via SDR

[Andy obrien]

While not exactly digital modes...


-- Forwarded message --
From: pauljmarsh 
Date: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Subject: [SDR-IQ] Re: Impressions on SDR-IP
To: sdr...@yahoogroups.com




> Some impressions of the IP is at http://www.pudxk.blogspot.com/73,Tarmo...
>
Hi Tarmo,all,

Thats a very interesting write up. I've put my observations on the SDR-IP
online at http://www.uhf-satcom.com/sdr-ip/

During the last shuttle mission we used an SDR-IP to record the 2MHz
downlink from the shuttle during every pass, resulting in 5Gb to 7Gb files
per pass, which were then post-processed in order to recover the space to
ground audio channels. The mission audio we recovered is posted on line at
http://www.uhf-satcom.com/sounds/ - pretty amazing that it was possible for
non-NASA folks to get this stuff.

The SDRIP here is connected to a giga-bit ethernet LAN, so the network use
is consequentially quite small even with 2Mbps sample rate of the SDR. The
PC used with SV is an Athlon 2.7GHz CPU which seems to be able to keep up
with the network traffic with no problems. I must actually try my SDRIP on
HF a bit more, so far its had about 1 hours use on that band.

regards,

Paul M0EYT.

 __._,_.

Re: [digitalradio] Has anyone tried the WINMOR keyboarding?

[Andy obrien]

I have the latest version and do not see any keboard method in WINMOR.

Andy K3UK

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Howard Z  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone tried the WINMOR keyboarding mode - no ARQ using FEC?
>
> How does it compare to Olivia?
>
> Howard
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Net14 + PK-63

[Andy obrien]

My beacon is

K3UK-14  [FN02HK ].

I also produce


K3UK>APSK63:K3UK FN02hk
K3UK>APSK63:K3UK FN02hk
K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1
K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1
K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1

while playing around..



On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Andy obrien  wrote:

> Thanks Jim.  I have the software and am giving it a try in PSK63 mode ,
> software seems to be working but I have a few questions.
>
> Are ALL  the frequencies listed on the web site for PSK63 as well as Packet
> ?  Also, it has been a while since the days of using UI-View, do I put my
> grid in the HF beacon or do you need my longitude /latitude?
>
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:28 AM, G0JXN Jim  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  Hi Guys
>>
>> As an experiment I have set up APRS/PSK-63 along side the Net14 300bd APRS
>> on 20m. The 300bd APRS is running at 100W and the APRS/PSK-63 at 25W.
>>
>> Full details of the setup are available at www.net14.org.uk under Net14 +
>> PSK-63.
>>
>> Reports and comments please.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim, G0JXN/MB7UXN
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Net14 + PK-63

[Andy obrien]

Perhaps this is more like it...


K3UK-14>APSK63:K3UK-14  [FN02HK ].



On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Andy obrien  wrote:

> My beacon is
>
> K3UK-14  [FN02HK ].
>
> I also produce
>
>
> K3UK>APSK63:K3UK FN02hk
> K3UK>APSK63:K3UK FN02hk
> K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1
> K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1
> K3UK-14>APSK63:::{1
>
> while playing around..
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Andy obrien  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim.  I have the software and am giving it a try in PSK63 mode ,
>> software seems to be working but I have a few questions.
>>
>> Are ALL  the frequencies listed on the web site for PSK63 as well as
>> Packet ?  Also, it has been a while since the days of using UI-View, do I
>> put my grid in the HF beacon or do you need my longitude /latitude?
>>
>>
>> Andy K3UK
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:28 AM, G0JXN Jim wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi Guys
>>>
>>> As an experiment I have set up APRS/PSK-63 along side the Net14 300bd
>>> APRS on 20m. The 300bd APRS is running at 100W and the APRS/PSK-63 at 25W.
>>>
>>> Full details of the setup are available at www.net14.org.uk under Net14
>>> + PSK-63.
>>>
>>> Reports and comments please.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Jim, G0JXN/MB7UXN
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Net14 + PSK-63

[Andy obrien]

Thanks Juian, the Net14 instructions suggested 1800 Hz as an audio frequency
but I'll try 2100 and see if I detect any traffic.  I do have APRS
Messenger.

Andy K3UK

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:28 AM, g4ilo  wrote:

>
>
> I've never heard of Net14 before and don't know how it differs from APRS in
> general, but the best band for APRS activity (including using PSK63) 24/7
> seems to be 30m.
>
> You need the software APRS Messenger which you can get from this Yahoo
> group: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/cross_country_wireless/ where
> you'll also find help and advice on using it if necessary. This is all you
> need to send and receive APRS text messages but it can be fun to use an APRS
> client such as APRSISCE (obtainable froim this Yahoo group:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aprsisce) so you can see on a map the
> position of stations whose packets you receive.
>
> APRS over PSK63 on 30m is operated using USB with a dial frequency of
> 10.137600 MHz and an audio frequency of 2100Hz (the latter is an option
> selected within the APRS Messenger software.) You cannot use a regular PSK63
> program to participate in this because the APRS over PSK63 protocol uses
> checksumming to ensure the validity of packets.
>
> There are probably a lot of other questions which have already been
> answered (or can be asked) in the aforementioned Yahoo groups. This is a
> very interesting use of PSK63 which appears to provide a more robust method
> of sending APRS over HF than using 300baud packet.
>
> Julian, G4ILO
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Congratulations Simon! DAYTON HAMVENTION Awards "Technical Excellence* - Simon Brown / HB9DRV "

[Andy obrien]

>From eham.net and HRD forum..


ill Pasternak (WA6ITF)  on March 19, 2010


BREAKING NEWS FROM AMATEUR RADIO NEWSLINE: DAYTON HAMVENTION(c)
ANNOUNCES 2010 AWARD WINNERS:

Three amateur radio (ham) operators who have made significant
contributions to the Amateur Radio Service, will be honored guests
when Hamvention® 2010 opens in Hara Arena on May 14. In addition, a
club of the year will be honored in keeping with the 2010 Hamvention
theme, Amateur Radio Clubs Worldwide: The Lifeline.

Recipients of this year's Hamvention® awards are:

*Special Achievement* - Dick Ross/K2MGA for his excellent work over
the past number of years on CQ magazine.

*Technical Excellence* - Simon Brown / HB9DRV for the invention and
development of Ham Radio Deluxe.

*Amateur of the Year* - Jim Stafford / W4QO for 50 years of service to
Amateur Radio and his support for public service and unending efforts
to recruit and develop hams of all ages.

*Club of the Year* - North Fulton Amateur Radio League, NFARL, North
Fulton, GA - Serving the greater Atlanta Area, the State of Georgia
and the US with emergency services, training and the preparation of
Amateur Radio in general.

" Choosing the finalists was a difficult process due to the number of
fine nominations" said Frank Beafore, Chairman of the Awards
Committee. This year, an additional award category was added - Club of
the Year. This award honors a ham radio organization that contributes
to the good of Amateur Radio.

"Although we narrowed our club choice to North Fulton, GA, we had a
number of deserving candidates" stated Beafore. "The winner of this
year's award is certainly a great example of the thousands of clubs
and organizations around the world perpetuating our avocation".

An intimate dinner on May 15 will be held in downtown Dayton honoring
the 2010 Hamvention Award winners.

[digitalradio] Using JT65A and W4CQZ RB for radiation pattern studies.

[Andy obrien]

While transmitting  on 20M today , using JT65HF software and
monitoring the W4CQZ "Reverse Beacons" for JT65A,,  I was lucky enough
to get 9 stations report my signal strength from one 45 second
transmission.   Take a look at the report each station noted at 2136
Europe.  I was using my home made ground plane vertical mounted at
17ft (1/4 wave).  Southern US stations (mostly SW of me) averaged
several dB better signals from me than the Europeans.  So can I assume
anything meaningful aabout the radiation pattern from this antenna or
is the key factor to examine the distance ?  The Europeans were twice
as far away from my QTH.

ES2MA-1 (KO29HI) Heard K3UK on 14076.12 KHz -19dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (6755 kms)
G4ENZ-1 (IO81vv) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -17dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (3514 miles)
F6DKQ-1 (JN37BI) Heard K3UK on 14076.13 KHz -11dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (3986 miles)

Southern USA
KD5JGA-1 (EM16rb) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -10dB at 21:36:00Z using JT65A
N5LYJ-1 (EM03rv) Heard K3UK on 14076.08 KHz -9dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (1191 miles)
KC5NYJ-1 (EL09rn) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -11dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (1380 miles)
N4ABN-1 (DM59pd) Heard K3UK on 14076.10 KHz -17dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (1545 miles)
WY5R-1 (DM95be) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -7dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (1307 miles)

Local
VE3CDX-1 (DM26ic) Heard K3UK on 14076.09 KHz -9dB at 21:36:00Z using
JT65A (30 miles)

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] FW: Digital communications for IARU Region 2 Band plan

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: 
Date: Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM
Subject: [wl2kemcomm] FW: Digital communications for IARU Region 2 Band plan
To: wl2kemc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: winlink_programs_gr...@yahoogroups.com




All,

If you have seen the IARU's view of what a band plan should look like, take
a look at the attached. My response is no literary masterpiece, but I
thought it important to state a case. Anyone else wishing to do likewise,
please have at it.

Steve, k4cjx, aaa9ac

-Original Message-
From: k4...@comcast.net 
[mailto:k4...@comcast.net]

Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:27 AM
To: 'bandplan2...@arrl.org <%27bandplan2010%40arrl.org>'
Cc: 'Mickey Cox'; 'k...@arrl.org <%27k5uz%40arrl.org>'
Subject: Digital communications for IARU Region 2 Band plan

To all it may concern:

These comments are being sought by the ARRL regarding considerations for the
proposed IARU Region 2 band plan. I wish to speak toward the lack of
opportunity available toward any future expansion of digital communications
under such a proposed plan.

With the exception of Amateur Radio, the growth of digital communications
has saturated all facets of radio communications. The obvious reason for
this digital saturation is the effectiveness, and efficiency of such a modes
of operation over their older analog counterparts. Fact is, in other
services, especially those which are responsible for our safety and
well-being, digital operations are now being mandatorily imposed by the FCC.
Because OBVIOUSLY, those who lead the charge toward the future direction of
Amateur radio have no interest in enhancing the ability to communicate by
modern standards, we are left with a tremendous scarcity of talent in the
digital arena, especially in our ability to transfer data traffic. The very
small digital segments proposed become a matter of popularity, and most
certainly, nothing to do with developmental considerations toward the
enhancement incentives to produce more effective methods of communications.

As we fall further behind in our antiquated methodologies, our own
effectiveness and efficiency suffers relative to our commercial
counterparts, leaving us vulnerable to intrusion from other services. Is
this currently not the situation we face continually?

To snuff the opportunity for experimental and operational enhancements by
severely limiting the frequency spectrum is one certain method to insure the
retardation of any future for digital enhancements in our communications
toolbox. During the days of dominance with Amplitude Modulation (AM), no
progress toward Single Sideband (SSB) would have been made without available
spectrum for development and operation. Today, developers and manufacturers
of Amateur radio equipment have little to no incentive to develop and use
digital methodology and protocols because they have no band space to use
what is developed and produced. Thus, very little progress is being made.

The very few KHz devoted to "narrow" and "wide" band digital operations,
attended or unattended, are absurdly small for any future development. In
addition, on 80 meters, such operations falls within the new SSB sub-band,
where such operations were just recently moved by the FCC. On 40 meters, the
operation is not in our digital "alley" and on the higher HF spectrum, such
operations are so limited that it is not practical for anyone to continue
operations or development. Modern digital methods such as those used by our
own government's MIL SPEC STANAG protocols are not legal due to the absurdly
slow 300 baud symbol rate. Thus, all past development has been severely
limited, while those who control the expansion and collapse of our spectrum
by mode operations could care less, even if they were aware of these issues.
After all, future expansion is not within their radar. If it were, these
impossibly small digital segments would be optimal for enhancing the Amateur
service opportunity to develop more efficient and effective means of
communicating.

It is with these considerations in mind that I highly recommend the
expansion of digital band segmentation throughout the HF spectrum. THINK
about any other operation being squeezed into such a minute band space. How
about putting the SSB DX segment within these small segments and see what
comments you receive? But wait, those segments are important to the "grass
roots" efforts. After all, future development toward digital communications
is only a concept to most, not a reality. However, without it, we will
continue to remain antiquated and vulnerable in the eyes of those who
determine our future.

Steve Waterman, K4CJX
Winlink Network Administrator
Winlink Development Team
Assistant Director, ARRL Delta Division
Army MARS National Automation Coordinator/Agency Liaison COML

[digitalradio] Fwd: [SDR-IQ] Re: SDR-IQ for sale

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: jerrydecker 
Date: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:28 PM
Subject: [SDR-IQ] Re: SDR-IQ for sale
To: sdr...@yahoogroups.com




I forgot to add I accept PayPal


--- In sdr...@yahoogroups.com , "jerrydecker"
 wrote:
>
> Selling my SDR-IQ, asking $410 shipped. s/n HV000517
>
> Have original box, cd, backing material.
>
> email direct
>
> de Jerry N5RV
>
> PS. Great receiver, I just don't have the time or place to enjoy it..
>

 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: SDR-IQ for sale

[Andy obrien]

It just sold...

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:02 PM, "John Becker, WØJAB"
wrote:

>
>
> Guess I better Google it to see just what
> it is. Right now I have no clue.
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Another plug for JT65A ... the spectrum efficient mode

[Andy obrien]

I know many are already aware of this, but take a look

N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard N6TE(DM12) on 3576.23 KHz -8dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A
N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 3575.99 KHz -5dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A

Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
that for spectrum efficiency?  I was transmitting 5 watts,

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Another plug for JT65A ... the spectrum efficient mode

[Andy obrien]

Good point.  What you have defined , Rein,is the occupancy efficiency in
terms of time..  I was measuring efficiency in terms of bandwidth used.
Obviously the othe rmeasure is wether the message was deleivered.  Using 5
watts for a 300-400 miles trasmission on 80M at night , PSK250 may have
needed sveral repeats to send 13 chracters .  So even in term so time PSK250
may have been close to 0.001547619 .  I'll  do a test tonight.
Andy K3UK

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:

>
>
> Spectrum efficiency must be measured in time necessary to get the info
> across,
> length of info transferred, and bandwidth.
> ((characters/second)/ bandwidth) or characters/(seconds * bandwidth).
> The bandwidth includes a certain guard band(minimum distance between 2
> different
> signals), which for JT65 is quite small ... but the time is a large
> factor...
>
> To give a small example:
>
> Pskmail using PSK500 ARQ has a spectrum efficiency of 23/500 = 0.046 CPS/Hz
> ... measured on 14094.0 kHz running 100 mW connected to SM0RWO (>1000Miles)
> ...
>
> The longest message in JT65 is 13 characters... and a message takes 48
> seconds..
> the bandwidth (according to the mode description) is 65 * 2.7 = 175 Hz
> ...which calculates to (13/48) / 175 = 0.001547619 CPS/Hz
>
> I would say this is a pretty bad value... :)
>
> Rein PA0R
>
>
> >Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
> >that for spectrum efficiency? I was transmitting 5 watts,
> >
>
> >I know many are already aware of this, but take a look
> >
> >N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard N6TE(DM12) on 3576.23 KHz -8dB at 03:32:00Z using
> JT65A
> >N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 3575.99 KHz -5dB at 03:32:00Z using
> JT65A
> >
> >Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
> >that for spectrum efficiency? I was transmitting 5 watts,
> >
> >Andy K3UK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
> >Chat, Skeds, and "spots" all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new concept in digital mode band plans- reducing the number of tongues in the tower of Babylon

[Andy obrien]

I fully agree Steve, it sounds like the way to go.  I only have 1.062H, will
have to check to see if I have the new features.

Andy K3UK

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:07 PM, N2CKH  wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I made mention of years ago via this forum that AQC-ALE is the the solution
> to your desires in these areas and that is still true and the neew features
> I have coded into PC-ALE and those that I am currntly working on will aid
> you in your pursuits.
>
> AQC-ALE ( which is only found in PC-ALE, MARS-ALE and Military ALE
> transceivers ) makes use of the same standard tones as standard ALE, however
> the data transmissions for all things involving Soundings if used and
> linking calls are very much shorter. The scan rate in PC-ALE for AQC-ALE is
> fixed at 5 ch/sec which means radios must typically be operated at 9600 baud
> or greater serial rates and FAST AGC is an absolute must.
>
> AQC-ALE has a "Meet Me" feature that will steer the linked station(s) to
> another channel in the current band or any other band as programmed in a
> common scan group between the users, the channel numbers for all channels in
> the scan group being used MUST match for all users in a group else the "Meet
> Me" feature will not work properly in getting all sttions to the same new
> channel. The setup for your purposes would be that your channels planned for
> "Meet Me" using no ALE for follow-on would be setup up in your scan groups
> as non-sounding channels if you are going to do any sounding at all, which
> is not at all required. As long as there is an organized group all scanning
> the same channels and all using a scan group that matches for all users than
> you can just make a single station or any multiple station linking call in
> AQC-ALE to establish the link, then change to one or more of the channels
> that you have pre-programmed as a "Meet Me" channel to see if its free, then
> go back to the channel you linked on and sen the "Meet Me" for the free
> channel. Then one you are on the new channel you can assume that the
> stations you are inlink with are there as well, if ALE is permitted and is
> to be used you can them use AMD, DBM or DTM or another follow on protocol as
> you choose. I have done all this on the air in the past and it works great.
>
> New features in the last PC-ALE release such as releasing RESOURCES make it
> easier than ever to use other PC software for follow-on after an ALE link
> and newer features that I have coded and some being worked on add even more
> 3rd party interfacing, coming soon will be emulation of KENWOOD and ICOM
> radio command sets where program such as VCOM will allow for any 3rd party
> program to control whhich ever of the over 200 make/models radios supported
> by PC-ALE after the ALE link, which also opens to door to any program that
> supports either or those two brands to control radios not normally found in
> HAM applications, you will be able to have PC-ALE just sit there with all
> but the emulation serial port released and use it as a radio control server
> if your non-ham rig is not supported.
>
> Please not that I only see messages to this forum when I log in via Yahoo
> so replies to any questions may not be fast coming here, however I do get
> direct e-mails via the MultiPSK and HFlink forums.
>
> /s/ Steve, N2CKH
> www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM/
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Andy
> obrien  wrote:
> >
> > Just to make myself clear, I am not suggesting that we actually use the
> > standard ALE digital mode for calling CQ. I'd be fine with it, but it is
> > quite wide and would start a debate all over again. I'm also not
> suggesting
> > we use ALE-style soundings that are unattended. What I like about the
> > general concept of ALE is a standard calling mode and then use of
> received
> > data to establish what mode can be used to maintain the current QSO (or
> > "link" ) .
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new concept in digital mode band plans- reducing the number of tongues in the tower of Babylon

[Andy obrien]

I agree Jim, ALE400 would make sense.  In general, the current failing of
standard ALE to take off are , I think,  linked to attempts to popularize
ALE for emcomm use.  While ALE concepts do lend themselves to emergency
communication nets, the gist of this thread is related to plain old ham
radio, having a normal QSO.  Having a standard calling digital mode , and a
way to then switch modes to suit conditions .  This would eliminate the
endless CQ calling in odd-ball  modes  and increase the chances of actually
getting a reply.   To regular ALE users my idea is like reinventing the
wheel, because what I propose is what ALE can do already.  However, getting
people to actually deploy ALE and also eliminate unattended operations, is
an impossible task.

Andy K3Uk

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:41 PM, jhaynesatalumni wrote:

>
>
> I think it's fair to discuss, which is to say question, whether
> military standard ALE is the best thing to use on amateur
> frequencies. It's good to make use of existing standards when
> they fit the situation, but military radio is not amateur radio.
> With our crowded bands, and with amateur radios that are stingy
> on the bandwidth, maybe we would be better off using something
> like Patrick's ALE-400.
>
> Jim W6JVE
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] WINMOR good

[Andy obrien]

Another  major update came out today.  FYI, despite some limitations
on noisy HF (like all modes) , my view is the the RMS package is now a
complete one.  A application that fills the void mentioned frequently,
namely the lack on HF on-ramps.  With Winmor HF stations now connected
to the WINLINK system, hams can easily communicate via Internet and
without Internet.  Example, today I connected to KN6NB-5 on 30M, just
to see if the upgrade was working.  I connected and received an email
from another ham that was sent a couple of days ago.  I had not
checked mail for a few days.  How I got the email, I have no clue.  In
other words, I don't know how it found me, I have not kept up on how
Winlink works.  I assume that I checked in to a WINMOR winlink
station, it checks WINLINK for any mail for me by using the Telnet
link and then sends me the mail via HF winmor.  While many may have
issues about the winlink concept, it now does do something
effectively, gets messages to a destination via variety of methods
..error free.

Andy K3UK


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> Well, ROS diverted me and I am quite out of date with WINMOR and RMS
> Express.  I finally upgraded tonight and it looks like  it has taken a
> major leap forward with PACTOR now added  to the suite, plus may new
> features.  I'll play around some more before registering with the
> $39.00 fee but it looks very professional and well conceived.  VERY
> nice channel selection and display with time feature and really nifty
> channel filters that let you set minimum signal quality.      Pactor
> III is still probably the cat's meow, but this package now gives
> Telnet, Pactor (via hardware modem) and Winmor via soundcard. Winmore
> P2P or Winmor WL2K.  Very well done .  I'll try the K7EK station later
> tonight.
>
> See screen shot at http://www.obriensweb.com/wmor.jpg
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> RMS Express Revision History
>
>
> Revision        Date                    Description/changes
>
> 0.5.1           3/13/2010       Minor updates for Pactor and help after 
> version
> 0.5.0.0 testing.
>
> 0.5.0.0         3/10/2010       Major update including New use of WINMOR TNC 
> and
> addition of Pactor and propagation prediction.
>
> 0.4.2.0         1/21/2010       Release of 0.4.1.3
>
> 0.4.1.3         1/20/2010       Change logging in KHzToHz to not log 
> exception on
> empty string.
>                                Updated WMLinkProtocol.Process Control for 
> case &HFF to not
> include state disconnecting.
>                                Changed sound card restart threshold of 
> dttLastSoundCapture from 3
> sec to 7 sec.
>                                Moved Reset of dttLastSoundCardCapture in 
> ProcessCapturedData to
> where Data is decimated by 2.
>                                Modified RestartCaptureDevice to clear Capture 
> State and PTT
>                                Modified StopRecord to clear capture state and 
> PTT.
>                                Fix SetRMSCallListXML and SetRMSFreqListXML in 
> WinmorChannels and
> Winmor to correct error with multiple intervals of one frequency.
>                                Extend intActivityTimeout from 15 to 20 
> seconds in
> WMLinkProtocol.DecodeFrames
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)

[Andy obrien]

Thanks for the explanation.  A few years ago, I expressed concern that
hams were drifting towards the Internet and expensive PACTOR modems
for emergency messages.  Now with RMS Express/Winmor, PSKmail,and
NBEMS ,  we have plenty of good HF options to choose from. The large
network of RMS stations on HF has several advantages in North America,
in Europe I think PSKMAIL has a wider network.

Andy K3UK
>
> Very cool, Andy, sending a message to the Yahoo Group via Winmor and the 
> Winlink Global HF Email System!
>
> Just so everyone doesn't think that Winmor is dog slow, below is a section of 
> my current Winmor RMS (Radio Mail Server) log file from this early evening. 
> If you've got good propagation you are going to go fast. If not, well then I 
> guess you are Andy :-)
>
>
> The first entry is Andy's traffic. Because of the protocol overhead even 
> connections that pass no traffic take approximately 2 minutes from start to 
> finish. The more you send the less the overhead affects the aggregate data 
> rate. You can see the connect in the log right after Andy moved a message 
> that had 4707 bytes (compressed, uncompressed it was 4876) in about 5 
> minutes. That's flirting with 1Kbyte/min over a 500Hz bandwidth HF connection 
> INCLUDING overhead, i.e. not bad! That is pretty typical for a 500Hz Winmor 
> connection with good propagation. With very good propagation rates can 
> approach 2Kbytes/min, i.e. VERY not bad for 500Hz bandwidth!
>
> Finally, as Dave noted there is no RMS relay yet for Winmor. So there is no 
> true, organic (radio based), mesh network, store and forward YET. For now 
> Winmor is dependent on the internet to move messages between the Winmor CMS 
> mail servers. Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no 
> wireline or commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email 
> over HF and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem.
>
> 73
>
> k*b*l*0*0*q
>
> _

[digitalradio] Narrow modes/spectrum efficiency

[Andy obrien]

Julian,

I agree.  That is why I think we should be trying to encourage hams to use a
standard mode to call CQ , then switch modes based on conditions, rather
than each mode expect to establish a group of typical calling frequencies .
Since RTTY, PSK31, and JT65A are so well established , I'd leave them alone
.  However, the other  digital modes (and future ones) should consolidate
frequencies and agree on a narrow default calling mode.  ALE400 is the
mostly likely candidate.

Andy K3UK

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:14 AM, g4ilo  wrote:

>
>
> That's just the point. There isn't another. The space we have to use on HF
> is limited. All the frequencies we have are already being used by somebody.
> Look at all the trouble ROS mode has had trying to find a place to operate
> that didn't upset somebody.
>
> We should be looking to develop better narrower modes that allow more
> people to make contacts using the space we have, instead of wide ones which
> will simply create conflict by forcing existing users into ever narrower
> corners of the available spectrum.
>
> Most people are not interested in experimenting with new modes. They just
> want to make contacts using the modes we already have. They don't take
> kindly to being squeezed off the bands by new wideband modes and I entirely
> understand and sympathize with that.
>
> Julian, G4ILO
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Email via ham radio...

[Andy obrien]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:19 AM, g4ilo  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "aa777888athotmaildotcom"  
> wrote:
> > Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no wireline or 
> > commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email over HF 
> > and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem.
> >
>
> Does that include email from non-hams and messages of a commercial nature?
>
> Julian, G4ILO
>
> _


That raises an interesting point Julian.  I raised the same thing
about PSKMAIL, that it could potentially transmit emails  that many
hams are prohibited from sending.  Here in the USA, when such matters
were the concern of Packet BBS sysops, the onus was placed on the
Sysop to ensure compliance with rules.  With Winmor, you can't see
your incoming email until after it fully arrives, so no pulling the
plug  mid stream if a prohibited item is transmitted.  With PSKmail,
you could stop if something was not within the rules..

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Live webcasts from UK Space Conference

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Mike Terry 
Date: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM
Subject:] Live webcasts from UK Space Conference





There will be live webcasts Friday and Saturday from the UK Space Conference

being held at the Charterhouse School in Goldaming, Surrey.

There will be a number of CubeSat and satellite related presentations.

The live webcasts can be seen at
http://www.space.co.uk/UKSpaceConference2010/LiveWebCasts/tabid/817/Default.aspx

UK Space Conference UKSC 2010

Twitter: http://twitter.com/UKSC2010

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12966340553#
!/group.php?v=wall&gid=12966340553

Web: http://www.ukspaceconference.org/

(Southgate
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2010/space_conference_webcast.htm )

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)

[Andy obrien]

No, I think not.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Box SixteenHundred wrote:

>
>
> But do we want to clog up the HF bands with posts to Yahoo groups
> and such ?
>
> 73 - Bill KA8VIT
>
>
>
> >
> > Very cool, Andy, sending a message to the Yahoo Group via Winmor and the
> Winlink Global HF Email System!
>
>
> --
> Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your
> inbox. Sign up 
> now.
> 
>

[digitalradio] Fwd: [pskmail] jPSKmail v0.5

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Pär Crusefalk 
Date: Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Subject: [pskmail] jPSKmail v0.5
To: pskm...@freelists.org


Hi all,

This is just a quick note to inform you that I have uploaded what I
believe to be the finished version 0.5 of the jPSKmail client. For now
its available here: http://www.crusefalk.se/jpskmailinstall/
Should be on the normal mirrors very soon.

There are versions for linux, windows and others. The "other" version
will probably be altered a bit for Macs asap. I added the manual as a
menu shortcut. Its in pdf so windows users will need a pdf reader (which
is very easy to get, for instance here: http://ninite.com/ )

I encourage you to test this version and report any issues to the
pskmail mailing list.

73 de Per, SM0RWO

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK-ROBUST - Path Simulation Results vs field tests

[Andy obrien]

Rein, what is the cause of the 1700hr "heaviest" multipath?  Is that a
ionospheric  condition of some peak airport traffic issue ?


Andy K3Uk


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:

>
>
> I have done several tests with DA5UWG on 80m, and the 200 km path still
> shows lots of multipath.
> Both antennas are low (mine is a full wave 80m loop at 10m, DA5UWG has a
> dipole at 12m).
> Sometimes the mode goes up to PSK500 for a few frames, but it always
> switches back to PSK500R, PSK250R or
> MFSK32.
>
> There is also a clear variation pattern involving the time of day.
> Multipath is heaviest around 17:00 local time.
> I have found PSK500 or PSK250 to be useable only on single hop
> (Eindhoven->Stockholm) or groundwave (< 50 km) paths.
> During such occasions they save a lot of time :)
>
> I live near an airport, and when a plane is overhead the download from
> PI4TUE (20 km) switches from PSK500 to PSK500R.
> Upload remains PSK500R beacause the high noise level at PI4TUE prevents
> PSK500.
>
> The robust modes are generally better than the raw modes, that is why
> PSK500 is the only PSK raw mode in the mode table of
> pskmail. This mode table was established using the trial and error method
> over several months and paths...
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
>
> >Hi Tony,
> >
> >Thank you for the information. This is the issue with field tests, there
> are always several variables.
> >
> >I will proceed with some other field tests, trying to eliminate some of
> the variables. In my case I have an inverted V on 40 and 80M at only 9
> meters peak over the ground for the server. So if I use a low dipole for the
> client next time (2 or 4 meters high) instead of the vertical I assume I
> should be able to safely eliminate ground waves over that distance (95
> miles).
> >
> >Am I correct in my understanding that there is still multipath and
> therefore selective fading in pure NVIS (no ground wave) conditions?
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
> Tony wrote:
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> The first thing that comes to mind is whether there were any ground wave
>
> >> signals mixing with sky waves during your field tests? It's been shown
> >> that NVIS throughput can fail when the sky wave echoes interact with
> >> ground waves. The sky waves take more time to arrive at the receiver so
> >> you can imagine what the difference in timing does to copy when the two
> >> signals interact. This is what the NVIS simulations were based on; two
> >> channels, one with no delay (simulated ground wave) and the other with a
>
> >> 7 ms delay (simulated NVIS sky wave).
> >>
> >> January's path tests showed that PSK-R appeared to be less robust than
> >> BPSK under NVIS simulation while the white noise tests clearly showed
> >> PSK-R the winner in terms of sensitivity. Your field tests seem to
> >> reveal the same results in terms of which modes have the edge in
> >> sensitivity, but not necessarily the edge in terms of dealing with
> >> multi-path timing delays. I could be wrong though and there may have
> >> been strong evidence of ground wave interaction? It can be difficult to
> >> tell; some paths are more obvious than others. Hellschreiber is the only
>
> >> mode I know of that can visually indicate this sort of thing, but that's
>
> >> not an option with PSKMail.
> >>
> >> Hope to hear from you soon John.
> >>
> >> Tony -K2MO
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> n 4/1/2010 9:45 AM, vk2eta wrote:
> >> >
> >> > To Tony (K2MO) in particular, but not exclusively:
> >> >
> >> > Following your simulation results on these modes in January I have
> >> > done a few tests in the field and I have to say that I don't
> >> > understand the results.
> >> >
> >> > Please note that I am not trying to make a point, but to understand
> >> > why the theory does not seem to match the practical side.
> >> >
> >> > My tests simply revolve around examining the bahaviour of the Pskmail
> >> > server adapting speed to the conditions.
> >> >
> >> > We have in the latest version a table of modes that the server can use
>
> >> > by shifting up and down, one mode at a time. It does so by relying on
> >> > the s/n report gathered from Fldigi and the number of repeats due to
> >> > damaged ARQ frames.
> >> >
> >> > The list is arranged in an empirical order of speed vs robustness and
> >> > is the following for regions 2 and 3:
> >> >
> >> > THOR8 MFSK16 THOR22 MFSK32 PSK250R PSK500R PSK500
> >> >
> >> > The MFSK/IFSK family of modes are normally the modes of choice for
> NVIS.
> >> >
> >> > This week I did some tests at 95 miles in a strait line from my server
>
> >> > on 40 and 80M between about 1PM to 2PM local time so obviously in NVIS
>
> >> > conditions.
> >> >
> >> > What I noticed every time I would connect in MFSK16, the server would
> >> > progressively shift the TX mode up into the PSKR modes, up to PSK500R,
>
> >> > but never to PSK500.
> >> >
> >> > I also noticed that there would b

[digitalradio] CQ WARC bands via ALE400

[Andy obrien]

I will be scanning 10145.5  , 18104.5 and 24926 USB during most of the
day using ALE400.  I am trying to drum up more interest in using this
narrow (and very robust) ALE digital mode and then switch to otehr
digital modes if a link is made and conditions dictate a change.  To
find me today, use the ALE400 in Multipsk, and simply make a call.  If
I hear you, my rig wills top scanning and respond if I am in the
shack.  I'll be happy to use other modes after we link via ALE

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] CQ WARC bands via ALE400

[Andy obrien]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Hugh Mac Donald < wrote:
>
>
>
> You are starting to get me interested in it again Andy. Other than a couple 
> of chats with Bonnie in 141A I have not seen much use for ALE! I will listen 
> to 10.145 and see what I can hear.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hugh  AC7XF
>
>

Hi Hugh.  Other than an actual QSO with Bonnie , where we did switch
modes, all my  standard ALE contacts were ones where we stayed with
ALE 141A.  I think HF Link has mad a mistake by promoting  ALE as a
emcomm concept.  While it is certainly useful in Emcomm, the average
"encomm ham" ham is not likely to have the patience for ALE .  If we
magically could get about 50 hams to start scanning one freq each on
80, 40, 30,20, and 17M. and occasionally sending a "sounding" or CQ
when looking for a QSO, we would have a good cadre to build the
concept of ALE for regular QSOs.  Using Multipsk's scan selection of 2
seconds per channel,  we could more easily catch people making a
general call and not have to monitor web sites and 'sked pages" for
digital  modes QSOs.  .  PC-ALE is likely soon to have some new
features that will make switching modes an easier task.  Multipsk's
macros and RS-ID could also be used to establish some generally
accepted method of switching modes after an initial "link".   The
reason I promote ALE is that , as far as I can tell, it is the only
mode that is capable of high speed scanning and automatic pausing when
a call is detected.  I

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio]

[Andy obrien]

I like the picture on their site.

Andy k3Uk

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM, "John Becker, WØJAB" wrote:

>
>
> try this list
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pactor_packet/
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Alinco DX70 on 5MHz?

[Andy obrien]

Ian,

Perhaps G3YCC might know...


http://www.zerobeat.net/g3ycc/dx70.htm


Andy K3UK



On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Ian Wade G3NRW  wrote:

>
>
> I want to modify my Alinco DX70 for experimental digital transmissions
> on 5MHz. I have already discovered this:
>
> http://www.hampedia.net/alinco/dx-70th-tx-and-rx-mod.php
>
> It says that to "TX/RX everywhere remove both jumpers c and e", which
> seems straightforward. However, in my radio, jumper e is already
> missing, whereas in the black-and-white photo on the above site the
> jumper e is in place.
>
> So I want to be sure that jumpers c and e are indeed the right ones to
> remove -- the so-called "jumpers" are actually tiny SMD resistors, so I
> don't want to make a mistake. Has anyone here successfully done this
> modification, I wonder?
>
> --
> 73
> Ian, G3NRW
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] WANTED: ALE-400 Chat Mode QSO's

[Andy obrien]

I'm game too.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> Looking fro ALE-400 chat-mode skeds. I'll be QRV on 20 meters this evening.
>
> QRG 14073 +/- QRM
>
> Skeds welcome..
>
> Tony -K2MO
>  
>

[digitalradio] KQ6XA Recommendation IARU Region 2 Bandplan to ARRL

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: expeditionradio
Date: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:02 AM
Subject: [WINMOR] KQ6XA Recommendation IARU Region 2 Bandplan to ARRL
To: win...@yahoogroups.com




If WINMOR/WINLINK operators would like to contact
the ARRL Bandplan Committee and ARRL officials
in support of the KQ6XA Recommendation, attached
below, you may do so by sending an email to
bandplan2...@arrl.org 
bandplan2010@ arrl.org

and to your appropriate ARRL Section officers.

You may reference this website containing the
recommendation with charts and images:
http://hflink.com/bandplans/iaru_region_2.html

Voicing your support is needed (the sooner, the better)
for us to build a future for advanced HF
ham radio communications.

73 Bonnie Crystal KQ6XA

TO: ARRL BOARD OF DIRECTORS' BAND PLANNING COMMITEE
REPRESENTING USA FOR IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN COMMITTEE
ARRL, NEWINGTON, CT, USA

FROM: BONNIE CRYSTAL KQ6XA,
International Coordinator, Global ALE High Frequency Network (HFN)

DATE: 05 APRIL 2010

SUBJECT: RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE TO IARU REGION 2 BANDPLAN

Dear Band Planning Committee Members,

In response to "ARRL Seeks Input for New IARU Region 2 Band Plan"
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11374/?nc=1

Here is an offering of essential recommendations with a
carefully researched band segmentation chart, to help
enable ARRL to represent hams effectively in the process
of committee deliberations, for the upcoming
IARU Region 2 Bandplan this year.

INTRODUCTION AND BACKGROUND
I write to you, as a very active operator in USA's Amateur
Radio Service, and in my capacity as International Coordinator
for the Global ALE High Frequency Network, a 24-7-365 interconnected
network of hams operating simultaneously on all international
HF bands for the past 3 years. I have presented papers and
participated in expert panels at Global Amateur Radio
Emergency Communications (GAREC) and other HF Conferences,
on the subject of international emergency / disaster
communications and HF Automatically Controlled Data Station
innovations. I have worked with groups and nets of digital
and analog modes to achieve voluntary HF net coordination.
I maintain a survey of HF band activity and a
comprehensive up-to-date international ham radio
bandplanning resource at http://hflink.com/bandplans

MOTIVATION AND HOPE FOR A NEW HF BANDPLAN
The motivation for this correspondence is the hope that
the ARRL Representative to IARU Region 2 bandplanning
committee can work aggressively toward a better bandplan
this year, especially one that is both compatible
with USA's FCC Amateur Radio Service rules, and
designates adequate spectrum space for automatic
fast data stations. The previous plan had many
many errors, mostly due to essentially being copied
from an old IARU Region 1 bandplan, without regard
to appropriateness for Region 2 hams.

THE EMCOMM BACKBONE: HF AUTOMATICALLY CONTROLLED DATA STATIONS
HF Automatically Controlled Data Stations have become
a vital lifeline for many stations in remote areas
of our IARU Region. The networks of ham operators
that use and keep these fast data stations on the
air daily have become the main backbone of
emergency/disaster HF communications in the North
American and Caribbean area within recent years. A huge
community of hams is being served daily by HF data networks,
especially with email and short text messaging, resulting
in thousands of contacts per day logged on a steady basis.
Recent developments in "soundcard ARQ digimodes" has brought
fast HF data within the budget of almost every ham in the
Americas. During emergencies or disasters, this fast data
traffic increases exponentially in the extremely crowded
automatic bandplan segments.

REGION 2 LEADS WORLD IN HF FAST DIGITAL DATA EMCOMM NETWORKING
It is a well known fact that IARU Region 2 has a much
higher use of HF Automatically Controlled Fast Digimode
traffic than the other IARU Regions (supporting network
logs are available to the representative on request).
Due to high speed ARQ, these efficient data communications
using normal 2700Hz bandwidths are able for time sharing
spectrum for traffic more effectively than slower digimodes.
However, the previous HF bandplan for Region 2 failed to
designate adequate band segment space to enable these
essential modes for the present and future of daily
routine and emergency/disaster communications for amateur
radio. Operators need the flexibility of 2700Hz bandwidth
to run as fast as possible so that more operators can run
their traffic rapidly and promptly. ARRL was founded in
support of traffic handling, and the new fast digital
networks are actively carrying on this tradition of
volunteerism and high quality.

PREVIOUS REGION 2 BANDPLAN ILLEGAL FOR 90% OF HF AUTOMATIC STATIONS
USA amateur radio operations are greater than 90% of
all HF activity in IARU Region 2. However, the
Region 2 bandplan has designated segments that are
totally illegal on 8 HF bands for USA's Automatically
Controlled Dat

[digitalradio] Scanning 3583,7073,14073, ALE400 2230-0200

[Andy obrien]

I will be Scanning 3583,7073,14073, ALE400 2230-0200 UTC.  Give a CQ,
QRZ, or a "sounding if you are looking for a QSO.

Andy K3UK
FN02.

Re: [digitalradio] Scanning 3583,7073,14073, ALE400 2230-0200

[Andy obrien]

What would be fun would be if I could do both,  scan both Standard ALE and
ALE 400 in one pass of channels over 30 seconds.  15 seconds of either
mode.  On the other hand, maybe I should give up on the ALE400 concept and
encourange everyone to scan/sound (while attended) with ALE 141A and switch
to appropriate digital modes as conditions suit.

Andy K3UK

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> On 4/6/2010 6:33 PM, Andy obrien wrote:
>
>
>
> I will be Scanning 3583,7073,14073, ALE400 2230-0200 UTC. Give a CQ,
> QRZ, or a "sounding if you are looking for a QSO.
>
> Andy K3UK
> FN02.
>
>
> Andy,
>
> The upper HF bands are open to the south (2300z). Several S. American  /
> Caribbean stations on 10/12/15 meters. Standard ALE might bring a few
> returns.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] "evil Bonnie"..

[Andy obrien]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM, kb2hsh  wrote:
>
>
>
> I 110% agree with you there.
>
> Bonnie (yes, I'm not bashful about calling her out) "controls" ALE as if it 
> were HERS. In my opinion, it's little more than a business for her...not only 
> can you join HF-ALE, but you can also BUY MERCHANDISE.


John, Bonnie's group may sell merchandise but she has other successful
businesses, so I doubt this is her motive.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

[Andy obrien]

Let me "drill down" on this some more to find out the prevailing view...
Would those that object to Bonnie's idea, also object if the "wide" modes
were not part of the issue?.  How about these objections if there was a
digital mode under 500 Hz that transmitted "unattended" under automatic
control?  It seems to me, that after years of complaints that PACTOR, ALE,
and CW (W1AW) just fire up in the middle of a on-going QSO, that having an
area designated for automatic unattended operations makes sense.  Then, if
we operate there, we do so knowing that W1AW or a WINMOR server may activate
at any moment? (actually W1AW has a schedule , but you get my drift).  A 500
Hz sliver of spectrum in 80, 60 (yes)  30, 17,  and  10M would be all that
is needed.  The current ALE, Winmor, Pactor, operators (there really are
only about 200 in the world ,  TOTAL  ) would then use narrow forms of their
mode to achieve their aims . coordinate schedules between them, and have
2500 Hz where their operations are primary, and other hams communications in
these segments would be secondary.

Andy K3UK

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, n9dsj  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Andy
> obrien  wrote:
>
> >
> > Andy K3UK
>
> Personalities aside, the proposed "bandplan" is a bad idea. I cannot think
> of a present or future mode that could be better served by this. ROS has its
> own problems and standard ALE and PactorIII presently have areas they can
> reside. Neither are new or "advancing the state of art". Even Winmor, which
> is relatively recent, can not co-exist with existing Winlink PactorIII; is
> why they were told to stay out of the wide bandwidth automatic sub-bands. I
> have not found ALE to be a problem as they stay on pre-determined
> frequencies and actually have little traffic (no offense intended). The
> prospect of wide bandwidth Winlink bots being able to operate on the
> suggested frequencies is problematic and antithetical to the need for
> frequency conservation.
>
> Bill N9DSJ
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

[Andy obrien]

I'll accept Dave and Skip's comments as valid points.  BTW, the busy detect
does work quite well in Winmor.  Simon, I did not have a particular digital
mode in mind, I was just exploring the receptivity to the overall concept of
unattended operations,   if "wide" was eliminated from the discussion.

ANdy K3UK

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Dave AA6YQ  wrote:

>
>
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
>
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Jaak Hohensee [mailto:jaak.hohen...@eesti.ee]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:50 PM
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Cc:* Dave AA6YQ
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Unattended narrow mode transmission
> "protection"
>
> Busy detection in case of QRP Olivia 500/32 signals about snr -17dB is
> myth.
>
> >>>One could include an Olivia decoder in one's busy frequency detector. A
> busy detector need not detect all possible digital modes simultaneously; it
> could continuously reconfigure.
>
> >>>And as I said, "perfect is the enemy of good" (with apologies to
> Voltaire). A busy detector that is "only" 80% effective would reduce QRM
> rates from unattended stations by a factor of 5.
>
>  73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
>
> 8.04.2010 19:41, Dave AA6YQ kirjutas:
>
>
>
> If there were no means for such stations to avoid transmitting atop
> detectable on-going QSOs, I might consider supporting such a proposal. Busy
> frequency detection, however, is demonstrably feasible and practical.
> Rewarding the long-term rude behavior of ops running
> unattended semi-automatic and automatic stations without busy detection by
> giving them dedicated sub-bands would send a very clear message: the way to
> obtain dedicated frequencies is to unrelentingly drive everyone else out of
> them.
>
> Appeasement never works.
>
> 73,
>
>  Dave, AA6YQ
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradi 
> o...@yahoogroups.com]*on Behalf Of *Andy obrien
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:50 AM
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"
>
>
>
> Let me "drill down" on this some more to find out the prevailing view...
> Would those that object to Bonnie's idea, also object if the "wide" modes
> were not part of the issue?.  How about these objections if there was a
> digital mode under 500 Hz that transmitted "unattended" under automatic
> control?  It seems to me, that after years of complaints that PACTOR, ALE,
> and CW (W1AW) just fire up in the middle of a on-going QSO, that having an
> area designated for automatic unattended operations makes sense.  Then, if
> we operate there, we do so knowing that W1AW or a WINMOR server may activate
> at any moment? (actually W1AW has a schedule , but you get my drift).  A 500
> Hz sliver of spectrum in 80, 60 (yes)  30, 17,  and  10M would be all that
> is needed.  The current ALE, Winmor, Pactor, operators (there really are
> only about 200 in the world ,  TOTAL  ) would then use narrow forms of their
> mode to achieve their aims . coordinate schedules between them, and have
> 2500 Hz where their operations are primary, and other hams communications in
> these segments would be secondary.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, n9dsj  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
>> Andy obrien   wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Andy K3UK
>>
>> Personalities aside, the proposed "bandplan" is a bad idea. I cannot think
>> of a present or future mode that could be better served by this. ROS has its
>> own problems and standard ALE and PactorIII presently have areas they can
>> reside. Neither are new or "advancing the state of art". Even Winmor, which
>> is relatively recent, can not co-exist with existing Winlink PactorIII; is
>> why they were told to stay out of the wide bandwidth automatic sub-bands. I
>> have not found ALE to be a problem as they stay on pre-determined
>> frequencies and actually have little traffic (no offense intended). The
>> prospect of wide bandwidth Winlink bots being able to operate on the
>> suggested frequencies is problematic and antithetical to the need for
>> frequency conservation.
>>
>> Bill N9DSJ
>> >
>>
>>
>
> --
> Kirjutas ja tervitab
> Jaak Hohensee
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] RSID Query

[Andy obrien]

 Did you ever go through all the modes / sub modes to try and figure
out which one was being sent - only to have the other party go QRT
after you find it  :  )
>
> Tony -K2MO


Everyday, it seems!

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] ALE busy detect

[Andy obrien]

> In her OWN WORDS, she states that ALE is a "listen-first" mode


Actually, this is true...to a degree.  PC-ALE does have the ability to
detect the presence of a signal and delay the start of a sounding .
It does not work very well however, in my experience less than 10% of
the time..  WINMOR,  on the other hand , detects the presence of a
signal and delays a transmission almost 100% of the time.
Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Personal attacks....

[Andy obrien]

Folks, please remember that a rule here is that,  while being free to
strongly disagree, we should do so without personal attacks.  I often
disagree with many hams, and enjoy disagreeing with Bonnie at times.
However, she deserves respect for her opinions and personal attacks
should be avoided.  There can be a gray area about what constitutes
disagreement versus personal attacks, but I think most of us can use
common sense.  I have seen many people disagree with Bonnie very
strongly but without insult, that is OK.  It is also OK to agree with
her if you want.
Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] QRV: 3596, 7102,10145,5, 14109, 18106

[Andy obrien]

QRV: 3596, 7102,10145,5, 14109, 18106  ALE 141, happy to change modes
once a link is established.
(no takers when I have tried ALE400)


KB3JAJ: [02:02:28][ 3.5MHz ] De [K3UK]
[02:08:18][FRQ 07102000][SND][TWS] [KI6TCB ][AL0] BER 29 SN 05


Andy K3UK
FN02hk

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"

[Andy obrien]

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Rick Muething  wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Using the WINMOR busy detector for Pactor sounds like a workable idea.

> The WINMOR busy detector hasn’t yet been integrated into other WL2K Pactor 
> Servers but it could be.  The basic WINMOR TNC application (the virtual TNC) 
> has the function but would need to be integrated into the Pactor driver for 
> the SCS. When Vic gets back from vacation I’ll talk to him about this and 
> when we might be able to do that.
> 73,
>
> Rick Muething, KN6KB
>


That could be the development of the year.

Andy K3UK




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[digitalradio] Who Is QRV on ALE

[Andy obrien]

Overnight, I placed my rig on an 8-band scan using standard ALE (no
soundings from me) .  11 stations captured at various times.

[12:39:01][FRQ 07102000][SND][   ][TWS][N0PWZ
][AL0] BER 27 SN 05
[12:31:16][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][KC2PUA
][AL0] BER 30 SN 08
[11:23:23][FRQ 10145500][SND][   ][TWS][VK5ABN
][AL0] BER 27 SN 04
[11:09:34][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][WD8ARZ
][AL0] BER 30 SN 07
[[10:49:50][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][N2CKH
][AL0] BER 29 SN 07
[10:35:22][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][KB3JAJ
][AL0] BER 30 SN 07
[06:04:34][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][KR4K
][AL0] BER 20 SN 06
[03:29:24][FRQ 03596000][SND][   ][TWS][KB3JAJ
][AL0] BER 27 SN 06
[02:35:26][FRQ 03596000][TO ][KJ4AYT ][TIS][K2MO
][AL0] BER 20 SN 04
[02:28:17][FRQ 07102000][SND][   ][TWS][KJ4AYT
][AL0] BER 24 SN 05
[02:07:44][FRQ 14109000][SND][   ][TWS][KI6TCB
][AL0] BER 30 SN 07

I heard the above at different times on different bands, this is just
a list of the stations heard at least once.  Interesting 30M opening
to VK5-land.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Scanning "on the 3's" today.

[Andy obrien]

I am scanning 3583 ,7073,  10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
today.  Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome .  I am
scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
pause the scan and see who it is.  Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
(for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with
3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) .  Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .

For those interested in multiband  scanning , aside from actually
programming your rig to do the scanning,  several  applications make
it easy to do

Commander
Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
PC-ALE (with ALE)

Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
your passband as the scan progresses.  2 seconds per "channel"  is
usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
you are on another frequency.


A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
traffic if you use 3583 ,7073,  10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
28123,  .  I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Scanning "on the 3's" today.

[Andy obrien]

Well , using ALE principles, I should have my scan passes timed so that
anyone that calls me, I can hear.  i.e. , a call time is of sufficient
duration that a complete scan can be achieved .

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, KH6TY  wrote:

>
>
> Andy,
>
> Same problem with your scanning station as with Winlink scanning stations!
>
> I am unable to know what frequency to listen on to see if I hear you in
> QSO, so if I hear nothing, I call just for you, assuming you may hear me. If
> you do not respond, I do not know if propagation is not good, or you are
> tied up on another scanned frequency in QSO. Whereas, if you were NOT
> scanning, I could just try calling you on one of the listed frequencies. If
> I heard traffic on that frequency, it would either be you or someone else.
> In any event, if you are in QSO with someone, I will transmit for you over
> and over, taking up a frequency someone else could use, and never connect
> with you until you are done.
>
> I called for you in Olivia 16-500 on each of the listed frequencies from
> 12:30 to 12:39 when I began to write this. Each frequency was clear when I
> called, of course, but never heard any reply.
>
> Seems like YOU should just be calling CQ, or calling for me for a sked and
> I should be the one doing the scanning and finding you! That way, you are
> not automatic and can verify the frequency is clear before calling CQ. That
> gives me a chance to check each band to see if you are on. This way, I do
> not take up a frequency calling for you when you are unavailable because you
> are busy elsewhere.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> 73 - Skip KH6TY
>
>
>
>
> Andy obrien wrote:
>
>
>
> I am scanning 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923, 28123,
> today. Anyone looking for a digital mode QSO is welcome . I am
> scanning in ALE 400 mode BUT if I hear another mode while scanning, I
> pause the scan and see who it is. Just had a nice Olivia 16/500 QSO
> (for an hour!) with W5ZIT who I detected on 14073 while scanning (with
> 3 kHZ filter, no narrow settings) . Also KB0QC in MFSK16 on 14074.5 .
>
> For those interested in multiband scanning , aside from actually
> programming your rig to do the scanning, several applications make
> it easy to do
>
> Commander
> Multipsk (using ALE and customized frequency settings )
> PC-ALE (with ALE)
>
> Vary the settings long enough so that you can hear a station within
> your passband as the scan progresses. 2 seconds per "channel" is
> usually good enough and reduces the chance of missing someone while
> you are on another frequency.
>
> A 3 kHz filter setting will allow you to hear most of the none PSK31
> traffic if you use 3583 ,7073, 10143, 14073,18103, 21073, 24923,
> 28123, . I did not use 7033 for European traffic.
> Andy K3UK
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] New SDR related Yahoo gtroup

[Andy obrien]

I started the digitalradio Yahoo group ten years ago (next month)
because ,at that time , there were many groups dedicated to particular
modes of applications but no generic groups where anything related to
digit modes was "ok" to discuss.  For the same reason, I have started
SDRlist.  A Yahoo group for discussion of any software defined radio.
Currently there are lists for Flex radios, SDR-IQ, SDR-14, Sofrock,
Winrad, CW skimmer, and many more.  There is also a forum for
SDR-Radio.  These lists can be quite good, but it can be a a little
awkward if you want to poast a question about a  rival product or
application.  So, if you have any interest in software defined radios
for amateur radio or SWLing, please consider joining via
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDRlist/  .  Please help build this new
group in to a thriving on-line community where useful exchanges of
information and opinion will make the group a leader in SDR.

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Digital Mode tests this evening - FLDIGI

[Andy obrien]

I will be there too.

Andy K3UK



On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> I'll be QRV for digital mode testing this evening after 2200z (April 15)
> till 0500z (April 16).
>
> QRG 14108 / 3588 (+ / - QRM).
>
> Modes of interest:
>
> 1. MFSK32 (Fldigi)
> 2. PSK250R (Fldigi)
> 3. MT63 1K (Fldigi)
>

[digitalradio] 10 years of digitalradio group.

[Andy obrien]

Thanks Tony, it has been a LOT of fun and many things have changed.  I
wonder if anyone has any ideas on how we might celebrate the 10th
anniversary?

Founded: May 11, 2000


Andy K3UK

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> Andy,
>
> Congratulations on the upcoming 10th anniversary of digital radio!
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] New SDR related Yahoo gtroup

[Andy obrien]

I think you are confused Bill.  Bonnie was not involved in "getting it
going".  She did contribute two graphics 4-5 years after we got going.

Actually, it was Andrew Nicholson who gave the initial help since he merged
his "rival" group with mine after a few months.

Andy K3UK

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, WD8ARZ  wrote:

>
>
> Congratulations Andy, and have to say how much it was appreciated for all
> the help Bonnie gave ya getting it up and going too.
>
> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Andy obrien 
> *To:* digitalradio  ;
> multi...@yahoogroups.com ; sdr...@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:51 AM
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] New SDR related Yahoo gtroup
>
> I started the digitalradio Yahoo group ten years ago (next month)
> because ,at that time , there were many groups dedicated to particular
> modes of applications but no generic groups where anything related to
> digit modes was "ok" to discuss.  For the same reason, I have started
> SDRlist.  A Yahoo group for discussion of any software defined radio.
> Currently there are lists for Flex radios, SDR-IQ, SDR-14, Sofrock,
> Winrad, CW skimmer, and many more.  There is also a forum for
> SDR-Radio.  These lists can be quite good, but it can be a a little
> awkward if you want to poast a question about a  rival product or
> application.  So, if you have any interest in software defined radios
> for amateur radio or SWLing, please consider joining via
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDRlist/  .  Please help build this new
> group in to a thriving on-line community where useful exchanges of
> information and opinion will make the group a leader in SDR.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>
> 
>
>
> http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
> Chat, Skeds, and "spots" all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] ALE history

[Andy obrien]

Bill gave me an idea...   I looked over the history of ALE on this
group.  Here are some "firsts"


First meneion of "ALE"  May 13th 2000

Attached Ale programme for anyone interested. Runs via soundcard.

Derek { G4JFI }


Sat May 13, 2000 6:40 am

"Derek Shipman" 
de...@g4jfi.freeserve.co.uk
Send Email Send Email
--

June 5th 2000

I've recently ran across the digitaradio
mailing list so just subscribed..

For info, KK7IF and I (WA6UBE),
have been experimenting with ALE in
the ham bands..

details can be found in the "ALE area"
of my site:

http://www.tactical-link.com

Trish
--
Patricia E. Gibbons & Carla Satra
Tactical Link Systems


see my comvan at:

..
My Public Key is available at:



---

First mention of PC-ALE
July 30th 2000

I have the ALE software by Charles Brain but have NO CLUE what to do.
Anyone want to try figure this out together and actually make an ALE QSO ?

Andy KB2EOQ

-


Dec 17th 2001  Bonnie's first post  and information on the "new"  of HF Link

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hflink

HFlink
ALE
Automatic Link Establishment on HF.
Use of standardized ALE formats and selective calling
techniques. Development of dependable HF communications networks
utilizing ALE with SSB and/or Data.

73---Bonnie KQ6XA

==

[digitalradio] N7DC still atop the Digitalradio rankings

[Andy obrien]

The current DXCC rankings at Clublog  for members of the digitalradio group are
RankCallsign160 80  60  40  30  20  17  
15  12  10  6   4   2   70  Total   Slots   Range

1   N7DC130 213 2   270 269 313 267 289 
201 252 44  0   1   1   333 225233 yrs
2   G1VDP   29  70  0   156 106 242 136 172 
38  122 49  1   14  0   271 11356 yrs
3   K3UK3   8   2   55  31  135 60  112 
18  237 2   0   0   0   248 663 23 yrs
4   SV7BOT  42  56  1   58  42  94  72  67  
39  67  104 0   15  0   173 657 18 yrs
5   DP1POL  31  41  0   93  86  116 63  44  
28  10  0   0   0   0   145 512 1 yrs
6   WF7T+2  12  73  2   94  17  107 14  57  
6   8   1   0   0   0   135 391 3 yrs
7   N8MNI   2   2   0   58  57  115 22  26  
8   15  3   0   1   0   132 309 20 yrs
8   DL3MR   1   11  0   46  58  107 42  58  
6   26  27  0   0   1   126 383 4 yrs
9   MC0SHL  0   44  0   70  25  70  56  17  
3   0   0   0   0   0   108 285 2 yrs
10  G0DJA   35  34  4   47  53  58  65  45  
40  30  50  11  18  3   105 493 27 yrs

Please consider uploading your log to http://www.clublog.org  and try
to knock Danny of his perch.  Make sure you add "digitalradio as your
club.
  Note, the above log is for ALL modes, not just digital modes.


For "data" only, the current standings are

RankCallsign160 80  60  40  30  20  17  
15  12  10  6   4   2   70  Total   Slots   Range

1   N7DC9   60  0   122 77  224 60  124 
13  64  1   0   0   0   245 754 33 yrs
2   G1VDP   0   41  0   68  63  95  31  46  
1   25  0   0   0   0   132 370 6 yrs
3   N8MNI   2   2   0   58  57  115 22  26  
8   5   1   0   0   0   131 296 20 yrs
4   DL3MR   1   11  0   40  34  97  22  39  
0   5   0   0   0   0   107 249 4 yrs
5   K3UK2   5   0   29  10  81  10  45  
1   54  1   0   0   0   96  238 23 yrs
6   SV7BOT  19  31  0   47  41  70  28  49  
1   3   3   0   1   0   94  293 18 yrs
7   DP1POL  0   1   0   46  59  73  37  23  
2   0   0   0   0   0   93  241 1 yrs
8   WF7T+2  2   24  0   57  9   79  1   49  
1   5   0   0   0   0   89  227 3 yrs
9   M9W 0   36  0   57  0   41  0   28  
0   3   0   0   0   0   72  165 2 yrs
10  AI4OF   1   13  0   36  14  51  6   2   
0   1   1   0   1   0   67  126 4 yrs

Danny is still "top".
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Youtube Video of JT65-HF

[Andy obrien]

The software is still in beta testing and usually available via that link
but has been taken down for a little while , the author is trying to sort
out some international export regulations.

Andy

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jon Maguire  wrote:

>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> It's supposed to be at
>
> http://w6cqz-hf-wsjt.googlecode.com/files/*setupJT65*-*HF1051*.*zip
>
> but isn't found.
>
> 73... Jon W1MNK
> *
>
> On 4/15/2010 8:16 PM, Frank MacDonell wrote:
>
>
>
> Andy - What is the website to download JT65-HF? Tnx.
> Frank MacDonell
> KD8FIP
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, obrienaj  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> While I am still a fan of JT65A as part of the WSJT program, I also use
>> JT65A in Multipsk and also in JT65-HF by W4CQZ. JT65-HF is my favourite,
>> works very well and is VERY easy to figure out. I just put a quick video of
>> it up on Youtube at
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9Ai_bHr0o
>>
>> This is without sound because I am testing camstudio software thanks to a
>> tip from K2MO, still have not sussed the audio settings.
>>
>> Andy K3UK
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Frank KD8FIP
>
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Sparse activity in TARA Skirmish

[Andy obrien]

I think the nasty broad signals and the AGC capturing effects of strong PSK
signals are slowing reducing the amount of people who find BPSK31 a useful
contest mode.

Andy K3UK


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:27 AM, kb2hsh  wrote:

>
>
> After a few hours on and off operating the TARA Skirmish, it appears as
> though there aren't too many interested in this contest.
>
> Hopefully, there will be more activity today. Interestingly, I have made
> more Q's using PSK125 than 31.
>
> 73 de John KB2HSH
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] SDR-Radio beta 1 released

[Andy obrien]

Manxman, Simon Brown,  has released first beta version of SDR-Radio
http://www.sdr-radio.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=XvE0QU_t0bM%3d&tabid=318&mid=1281&forcedownload=true


V1.0 Beta
SoftRock VFO support (Si570)
Waterfall colours redesigned together with Pieter from RFspace
Much minor cosmetic work

Preview 1e
Added AF Spectrum, use this window to adjust the filter width and view
the AF signal
Added Graphics Equaliser
Added Pseudo Stereo
New DSP engine with better filtering
Code optimised to lower the CPU demand (using the Intel® VTune™
Performance Analyzer software)


Previous releases were part of a set of technological "previews".  The
major addition to this release is support for Softrock SDRs .  Th isis
NOT the release that includes direct digital mode decoding, that is
planned for later this summer.
Andy K3UK




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[digitalradio] JT650Hf available again

[Andy obrien]

Downloads of  JT65-HF Version 1.0.5.1  has been restored

http://groups.google.com/group/jt65-hf


Join the above group for access to the free beta software

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] LOTW/SKCC and other Sked Page use. March Report

[Andy obrien]

A reminder that the  K3UK Sked Page supports interactive dialog
facilitating skeds and other general fun.  The pages can be found at
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

Specific pages for the Straight Key Century Club and the LOTW Triple
Play are very  popular.  There are also pages for digital mode QSO
experiments, WARC bands skeds,  and more.  We have also had a few nice
mentions in QST of late.FYI here is our March 2010 data, over 2000
hams in the  user database.


Monthly Statistics for March 2010
Total Hits  1633080
Total Files 1468824
Total Pages 23692
Total Visits13717
Total KBytes23719322
Total Unique Sites  6999
Total Unique Referrers  485
Total Unique User Agents854


.  Avg  Max
Hits per Hour   34028802
Hits per Day81654   112904
Files per Day   73441   104418
Pages per Day   11841816
Visits per Day  685 1028
KBytes per Day 1185966  1916741

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] "old" digital operator

[Andy obrien]

I worked W8TRX today

 "25 WATTS HERE TO G5RV  USING TS 85Ø   DIGIPAN 2.Ø HAD CALL SINCE
1939 1939  AG E   91 91  GOOD CPY NOW 5 X 9  MAYBE BETTER  "

Imagine all the changes he has seen in digital modes, and more.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital OPS: QRP Battery Portable

[Andy obrien]

Nice video Tony, amazing little antenna!

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> A
> The PY1AHD Alexloop continues to amaze me; working Europeans QRP with a
> hand-held loop that's only 3 feet in diameter is something only a ham would
> appreciate. It turned out to be a pretty good multi-band alternative to
> portable dipoles and verticals.
>
> I recorded a short video of the first CW DX contacts with the loop back in
> August 2009. It was right before a contest so the big guns were out in
> force.
>
> See -- http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/83698345/file.html
>
> I'll record some digital mode videos this weekend; the weather is supposed
> to be nice so I should get some backyard portable air time.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Six meters : open now

[Andy obrien]

Yes, same here ... qrv 50290 to 50293 , any digital mode



On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> Good Es openings on six meters today. Band is open as of 2330z (May 3rd)
> up and down the east coast. Good opportunity for digital...
>
> 50290...
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Six meters : open now

[Andy obrien]

Mostly central FL that I hear, but all phone traffic lower down.  No digital
traffic

Andy K3UK

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/3/2010 8:39 PM, Andy obrien wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, same here ... qrv 50290 to 50293 , any digital mode
>
>
> Andy
>
> Band is still active as of 0100z. Lots of W4's on CW / SSB. Nothing heard
> on 290.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Tony  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Good Es openings on six meters today. Band is open as of 2330z (May 3rd)
>> up and down the east coast. Good opportunity for digital...
>>
>> 50290...
>>
>> Tony -K2MO
>>
>>
>
>
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>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] The first "official" release of SDR-Radio Console

[Andy obrien]

http://www.sdr-radio.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=NSl58870YzQ%3d&tabid=319&mid=1287

The first "official" release of SDR-Radio Console, released May 2nd.


As demonstrated by K3UK at the  Allegheny Valley Radio  Association
Ripley , NY hamfest May 2nd.

Too bad I did not have a few SDR-IQ's to sell, quite a bit of interest
in both the SDR-IQ and the software.


Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Congratulations!!!

[Andy obrien]

Rein, is the following really correct?
>
> using Pactor 3 on 10.147 MHz is ILLEGAL in region2. Max. allowed bandwidth is 
> 500 Hz.
> Take a look at your licence.


 I raised this topic a few months ago and was told that it is not
fully correct, that it is a recommendation but NOT a requirement in
Region 2..  I raised it in regard to ROS and ALE 141A on 30M.

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] The first "official" release of SDR-Radio Console

[Andy obrien]

Hi Rud, yes I am near Ripley, in Fredonia  NY.  I also used to live in
Amherst!
Andy K3UK

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Rud Merriam  wrote:

>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Are you near Ripley? I'm in Houston know but grew up just east of Buffalo
> in
> East Amherst. My father is from Westfield and had a lot of family there so
> we used to drive down once a month of so. Of course we went through Ripley
> to get there.
>
> - 73 -
> Rud Merriam K5RUD
> http://mysticlakesoftware.com/
>
>

[digitalradio] Western NY HF Digital Net Fridays 9PM (Eastern)

[Andy obrien]

A new digital net has been established , the Western New York Digital
Net.  Blantantly  stealing some ideas by the creative folks behind the
WPA NBEMS Nets.   After input from various WNY hams the Western New
York HF Digital Net has settled on the following...

Fridays 9PM (Eastern)  3.5835 USB 8/500 Olivia  (0100 UTC Saturdays)

Sunday 9.30 AM  3.5835 USB 8/500 Olivia  (1330 UTC)

The nets are expected to be brief, 20-30 minutes.   The focus of the
nets will be a mix of informal and emcomm focused content
(establishing network coverage maps, message passing, examine
robustness of specific modes, etc ).

RS-ID will be used to assist operators.

All welcome, regardless of your QTH.

The digitalradio Sked Page may also be used to assist coordination ,
see http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Western NY HF Digital Net Fridays 9PM (Eastern)

[Andy obrien]

Yes, Dave.  The price is right


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:36 PM, KB3FXI  wrote:

>
>
>
> Good thing about Olivia is, Andy...
> If you're not completely satisfied, she'll give you a full refund of your
> purchase price!
>
> -Dave, KB3FXI
> wpaNBEMS.org
>
>

[digitalradio] 20M vertical suddenly a 30M vertical

[Andy obrien]

Hmm.  My homemade 20M Ground Plane antenna that was nicely resonant on
20M  now has a 3:1 SWR on 20M but is 1:1 on 30M!  Perhaps I should
patent the design,  how to make a resonant 30m vertical out of 17.5
feet of aluminium tubing!  The other odd thing is that the SWR is only
around 3:1 on 10M, 12M, and 15M.  I would expect it to be much higher
without  tuner.  It is not until I get to 40M that I get a very high
SWR.  I'll be going outside to check  , when the weather clears.  It
will be interesting to find out what has  happened

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Making a QRP SDR

[Andy obrien]

http://www.ae6ty.com/ae6ty/ae6ty/Papers_files/QQ0110_32-35.pdf

Intersting article by AE6TY.

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 20M vertical suddenly a 30M vertical

[Andy obrien]

Hi Sholto.  I suspect you are correct because this afternoon SWR on 20M is
fine and is is high again on 30M.  Too much of a gale for me to venture out
at the moment
Andy K3UK
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:19 PM, sholtofish  wrote:

>
>
> As it's unlikely you've changed the laws of nature it's probably your coax.
> Put a 50 ohm dummy load on one end and connect your analyzer (or even your
> rig) to the other and do a sweep of frequencies. I remember once having a
> cable that must have had water ingress that caused all manner of swr
> problems that seemed to change on a daily basis.
>
> 73
>
> Sholto
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Andy
> obrien  wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. My homemade 20M Ground Plane antenna that was nicely resonant on
> > 20M now has a 3:1 SWR on 20M but is 1:1 on 30M! Perhaps I should
> > patent the design, how to make a resonant 30m vertical out of 17.5
> > feet of aluminium tubing! The other odd thing is that the SWR is only
> > around 3:1 on 10M, 12M, and 15M. I would expect it to be much higher
> > without tuner. It is not until I get to 40M that I get a very high
> > SWR. I'll be going outside to check , when the weather clears. It
> > will be interesting to find out what has happened
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] K3UK Sked Page Annual Fund Drive

[Andy obrien]

The K3UK Sked pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked have had another
very successful year.  The SKCC and LOTW pages in particular have been
very popular with occasions where we have had 100 hams simultaneously
connected.  We have also had favourable mention in QST and other ham
publications.

June is the time of year where I pay the annual bill.

The site has very heavy usage .  The sked pages generate an average of
20 gigs of posts per month.   In April for example   Total Hits were
2,047,126,  Hits per Day averaged 68237 with a maximum of 118208.

To maintain this service I pay for a higher than standard server with
unlimited data use .  In the past,  many users have be generous enough
to make a small donation towards the annual costs.  Please consider
making a donation to help the 2010-2011 costs.  You can donate via
paypal (see http://www.obriensweb.com/donate.html ) or via check to
the call book address.  Donations of course are completely voluntary
and not required to use the service.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] RADCOM review of the Perseus SDR

[Andy obrien]

http://www.woodboxradio.com/download/microtelecom_perseus_sdr.pdf

It is a little out of date with respect to software and does not seem
to be aware of some of the advanced capabilities that something like
Multipsk  or  SDR-Radio-Console can provide, but it is a good article.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] QRV 14065-14115 : SDR RS-ID Skimmer

[Andy obrien]

I will be QRV today , simultaneously from 14065 to 14115 using
Multipsk with an SDR and RS-ID receive activated.  I will thus be able
to receive any RS-IDs heard within this range .  I will also have
Multipsk's Call ID activated.  So lets see if I can hear you and log
you.  I will still be able to log your ID to disk even if not in the
shack (I'll be in and out doing various things this Mother's Day).
Please make your calls in the USUAL way, no "broadcasting".  Also
please "QRL?"  first to make sure the frequency is not in use.  I'm
interested in determining how much activity I miss when in non-SDR
mode and listening to just the traditional 3-4 Khz range on 20M .  So,
please use RS ID when you call CQ or respond to a call.  It would seem
to me that RS-ID and an SDR could be used to form some sought of
"RS-ID Skimmer" that could turn out to be as useful as a CW Skimmer.

e.g

13:45:25 UTC BPSK31   14.0710 M
13:44:56 UTC OLIVIA-8-50014.0730 M
13:42:26 UTC OLIVIA-16-500  1302 Hz

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Why does the ARRL continue to push for Pactor III support...

[Andy obrien]

It seems odd to me too Rick.

However, i do note...

means of on-off keying (emission designator 150HA1A) continues to be used by
amateur stations because
of its reliability in difficult propagation conditions. ARRL also states
that the other requested emission
designators – 60H0J2B (which is generally known as PSK31) and 2K80J2D (which
is generally known as
PACTOR-III) – are popular narrowband data modes.16 We propose to add these
three emission
designators, which would allow four permissible emission types to be used in
the 60 meter band. We
propose to permit any additional modulation techniques that we adopt to be
used on all assigned
frequencies within the 60 meter band, including the assigned frequency 5368
kHz in the event that we do
not adopt our proposal to replace the assigned frequency 5368 kHz with
5358.5 kHz"

PSK31 would be welcome.


Andy K3UK

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Rick Ellison  wrote:

>
>
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-76A1.pdf
>
> This just makes no sense to me why you would push Pactor III on a
> channelized frequency setting..
>
> 73 Rick N2AMG
> www.n2amg.com
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

[Andy obrien]

FYI, I plan to file a comment opposing the PIII on 60M proposal.  My
objections are

PIII is a proprietary mode .
PIII as used in non-busy detect Winkink system has  been the leading cause
of QRM complaints for the past 10 years, hence they are likely to cause the
same for the primary services  that have 60M allocations.
Recent tests of NBEMS with FLICS and WRAP have proven as effective as PIII
and take up less spectrum (and are not proprietary)
Winmor 500 offers most of the Winlink capabilities without the problems
associated with wide PIII and is freely available to all hams.

I will probably suggest that they authorize PS31, MFSK16 and Winmor 500 if
they are going to get mode specific.

Andy K3UK


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Dave Wright  wrote:

>
>
> On May 10, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Chris Jewell wrote:
>
>
>
> Rick Ellison writes:
> "recommending that instead of authorizing only PSK-31 and Pactor-III,
> that the FCC instead permit all publicly-documented data modes "
>
>
> So, has Pactor III every been publicly-documented???
>
>
>
> Dave
> K3DCW
>
> Real radio bounces off the sky
> --
>
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Fwd: [30MDG] Help NEEDED with a Signallink USB

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: paul_g0uzp 
Date: Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:25 AM
Subject: [30MDG] Help NEEDED with a Signallink USB
To: 30...@yahoogroups.com




Hi all,

A ham friend of mine (M0UTD) has bought a signalink USB interface. Tried to
install it. It comes up with audio codecs ok... but does not assign a
comport. I have tried all I know, without success.
However it is picking it up as a USB Human Interface ?
I am pulling my hair out here..
Can anyone give me any pointers please...

Laptop is a Toshiba Sat Pro. with Win xp SP 3..

tHANKS IN ADAVANCE

Paul G0UZP

 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal

[Andy obrien]

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:15 PM, aa6yq  wrote:
>
>
>
> Where does one file comments on this proposal?
>
> I sure wish the WinLink guys would backfit the WinMor busy frequency detector 
> and deploy it to every PMBO. I'd much rather write code than letters to the 
> FCC...
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
> >


Good question Dave.  Does anyone know of an easy link to a comment
area for this proposal ?

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Digital ID Skimmer mock-up

[Andy obrien]

See  http://www.obriensweb.com/digidskimmer.htm  for a crude mock-up
of how a digital mode "skimmer" could look ,  The concept would be ...
 digital mode applications that already use RS ID detect (Fldigi,
Multipsk, DM780, Pocketdigi) expand their current displays of received
RS IDs in to something that provides more interactive information that
is "clickable" so you can QSY to the particular frequency, sortable by
mode of frequency, and color coded for easier visual reference.  Call
ID (a very useful feature within Multipsk)  could also be part of this
and , when used,  the call sign of the station that ID's would be
displayed.  This concept would support wider range frequencies
provided by an SDR, just as CW Skimmer does.

Anyone have any improvements on this idea ?

[digitalradio] The RS ID Weekend

[Andy obrien]

This coming weekend May 15th and 16th , a few of us  will be testing
Reed Solomon IDs... their usefulness and robustness. So, if you are
going to be on the air this weekend, using a digital mode, please use
your RS ID features.  Use it perhaps a bit more than you might
normally do, so we can have some targets to detect.  Often people only
use it at the beginning of a CQ to help ID their mode .  I would like
to see it on all "overs" since it helps others detect you,  and you
may be missed if you are not the one calling CQ.  If you have the Call
ID feature, please also use that since this will also plot your actual
Call sign.

For those unfamiliar with Reed Solomon ID as implemented by Patrick
F6CTE, RS ID causes a very brief  tone that, when detected, will allow
others with RS-ID capable software to be informed of the mode you are
using.  Software like Multipsk, DM780, and FLdigi then take this
information and arrange it it tabular form so that you can review what
ID's you have received and on what frequency.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] flmsg 0.9.03 digital mode NTS ?

[Andy obrien]

With the test release of flmsg 0.9.03 for Fldigi, I am wonder if
anyone has used it somehow interfaced with a NTS net?  The design
works fine, just wonder about any actual use of it to carry traffic in
to , or out of the NTS system.  Has anyone set up a NTS digital net
formally connected to a district or regional NTS net ?  I will
probably test it on Friday evenings Western NY HF Digital Net

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] QST article by K2MO on ALE 400

[Andy obrien]

Good work Tony, nice to see your QST article on ALE 400.  If any of
our members  have just read the article and are looking to try, I will
be active tonight on the usual ALE 400 channels.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] N3IKQ's SDR-IQ, PAR filters, Wellbrook loop for sale

[Andy obrien]

FYI.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Rick-N3IKQ 
Date: Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:59 PM
Subject:  SDR-IQ, PAR filters, Wellbrook loop for sale
To: sdr...@yahoogroups.com




Just in case you want a deal my SDR-IQ is listed on eBay Item 190394545512.
My PAR front end filters Item 190394569985. My Wellbrook loop antenna Item
190394567066. All ending Saturday night. Thanks.

N3IKQ

 __._,

[digitalradio] Re: CALL ID via PSKReporter

[Andy obrien]

The raw Multipsk version of this is listed as


01:26:36 CQ KA1GMN-EM12KU  + 1  1297 Hz 10.133220 MHz
23:44:35 CQ N9DSJ-EN52TI-9  1405 Hz 14.072000 MHz
23:54:11N9DSJ-EN52TI   -20  1986 Hz 14.072000 MHz
00:09:03N9DSJ-EN52TI   -11  279 Hz 14.072000 MHz
01:30:43 CQ K7LRB  + 3  1017 Hz 14.072000 MHz
01:33:39 CQ WB0ZYU -20  2051 Hz 14.072000 MHz
01:35:46 CQ K2MO-FN30GM-20  1012 Hz 14.072000 MHz
20 W  13 dBi   W 14.072000 MHz
01:36:34 CQ K2MO-FN30GM-20  3612 Hz 14.072000 MHz
20 W  13 dBi   W 14.072000 MHz
03:38:07 CQ AK4B   -11  3520 Hz 14.072000 MHz
03:39:06 CQ AK4B   -12  3666 Hz 14.072000 MHz


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> While I play around with ways to automatically upload my CALL_ID.txt
> file in Multipsk to my web site,  I should mention that PSKreporter
> already has a feature that does much of what I am trying to do.  See
> that attached screenshot that shows call ID's that I received.  PSK
> Reporter can be configured to have it show Call IDs received by
> multiple callsigns.  It is not as "instant" as I would like,  PSK
> Reporter updates every 2-3 minutes, I think.  Not bad though.
>
> A reminder, my interest in this subject matter is based on a desire to
> see RS ID and Call ID capabilities for the basis of some rough
> equivalent of a CW Skimmer , but for digital modes.
>
> Andy K3UK
>

[digitalradio] ALE 400 coming out of the woodwork

[Andy obrien]

Hey folks, MULTIPLE ALE 400 QSO on 20M at same time this morning, many
new operators thanks to Tony's great work.  I just maintained easy
links with Texas and Chicago over fairly poor conditions, for a LONG
time.  Also got some mail, first mail I have received via ALE 400 in a
couple of years (other than from Tony!).

Most of the action is around 14073 USB.

Some hopefully those of us that have used the mode before can help the
new folks out by being QRV.

Patrick, This article could be a real boost to you very creative application.

And

Re: [digitalradio] ROS MF-7 IS OUT THERE ! (And less than 100 Hz wide)

[Andy obrien]

good news, nice to see this mode make good progress.

Andy K3UK

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, graham787  wrote:

>
>
> After a series of successful test transmissions, the latest version of
> ROS-3-6-1 (at the moment) now has the MF mode included , this allows live
> key board qso's at a data rate close to 500/8 and also has a baud-1 mode
> with enhanced s/n performance , transmission via non-linear systems is
> possible , though the logic drive of class e/d will still present problems.
>
>
> To comply with the EU 100 Hz data bandwidth of the 500Khz permits the mode
> is coded to occupy less than 100 Hz , the first custom mode to be produced
> to enable data communications with in the EU on MF
>
> The first on air qso over 200 miles is listed >
>
> http://lfistes.erst.azerttyu.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1982&sid=5f68ac5172a5c1206\
> 214df5b03c2bc50
>
> Scroll down the page ... and you will see the RX station F4DTL was in Paris
> 650 Km from myself running 20 watts to 35 ft top loaded vertical and round
> 325 km from Jim running 100 w to a similar array
>
> Its quite possible that the 100 Hz mode will function well over HF over the
> polar paths where psk tends to fail ?
>
> G ..
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CALL ID via PSKReporter

[Andy obrien]

Thanks Phil.  I think the one issue is something you don't have control
over, that is the Call ID  that is decoded actually being sent to PSK
Reporter.  In Multipsk the decoded call ID is stored (by user option) in a
txt file.  As far as i can tell, this is not automatically sent to PSK
Reporter unless the user has Multipsk  configured to send to PSK Reporter.
I am not sure how many people choose to send to PSK Reporter versus simply
leave the option unchecked.  What I was playing around with is a way to
automatically upload the decoded call ID to a web page regardless of the
user option to send to PSk Reporter.

Multipsk , as you are already aware, produces a line like...

15:21:19 CQ K1DOW-EL97BE-4  3009 Hz

in the Call ID area.A none map version of PSk Reporter where it list
multiple decodes like


15:21:19 CQ K1DOW-EL97BE-4  3009 Hz
14:56:39 CQ K3UKFN02HK   -3  3009 Hz
14:56:05 CQ K1DOW-EL97BE   + 2  3154 Hz
13:38:25   KA1GMN/5  + 4  2194 Hz

might be useful but perhaps that is already possible with the "logbook" view
in PSK Reporter.


Andy K3UK

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM, philipjsg wrote:

>
>
> Andy
>
> If you want to have a special way of showing these records in PSKReporter,
> then please let me know and maybe I can implement it.
>
> Philip
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Andy
> obrien  wrote:
> >
> > While I play around with ways to automatically upload my CALL_ID.txt
> > file in Multipsk to my web site, I should mention that PSKreporter
> > already has a feature that does much of what I am trying to do. See
> > that attached screenshot that shows call ID's that I received. PSK
> > Reporter can be configured to have it show Call IDs received by
> > multiple callsigns. It is not as "instant" as I would like, PSK
> > Reporter updates every 2-3 minutes, I think. Not bad though.
> >
> > A reminder, my interest in this subject matter is based on a desire to
> > see RS ID and Call ID capabilities for the basis of some rough
> > equivalent of a CW Skimmer , but for digital modes.
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE 400 coming out of the woodwork

[Andy obrien]

my subjective view , Jim, is that it is "almost" as robust as Olivia under
common weak signal conditions.

Andy K3UK


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:36 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> That's good to hear. I have had only a couple of ALE-400 QSOs
> but both were very pleasant. I would be participating in this
> weekend's activity except I'm away from home.
>
> Do you have any feel for how robust ALE-400 is versus some of
> the other modes? Of course it's error-free because of the ARQ,
> but does it need a better signal than, say, Olivia to get through?
>
> Jim W6JVE
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] Re: The RS ID Weekend

[Andy obrien]

ALE 400 "won" in the RS ID sweepestakes, so far this weekend.  I
stayed mostly on 20M today (Saturday), Here are the modes my software
automtiacally detected. 5 modes.  I did not use my SDR , will use
Sunday.
Andy K3UK




02:00:31 UTC ALE4002621 Hz
01:57:38 UTC DOMINOEX-8479 Hz
01:38:20 UTC ALE4002654 Hz
01:32:10 UTC ALE4002659 Hz
01:27:16 UTC ALE4002018 Hz
01:27:09 UTC ALE4002654 Hz
01:19:28 UTC ALE4002018 Hz
01:11:33 UTC ALE4002648 Hz
01:09:38 UTC ALE4002637 Hz
01:08:46 UTC ALE4002648 Hz
23:20:06 UTC OLIVIA-8-250  1873 Hz
22:02:30 UTC ALE4002621 Hz
22:00:09 UTC ALE4002632 Hz
21:56:48 UTC BPSK313445 Hz
20:59:57 UTC ALE4001507 Hz
20:47:11 UTC ALE4002637 Hz
20:45:54 UTC ALE4002433 Hz
19:27:36 UTC PSK125R   1501 Hz
18:14:06 UTC ALE4002239 Hz
18:02:05 UTC ALE4001593 Hz
18:01:56 UTC ALE4002422 Hz
18:01:40 UTC ALE4001593 Hz
17:52:46 UTC ALE4002422 Hz
17:27:50 UTC ALE4001927 Hz
17:23:58 UTC ALE4001938 Hz
17:22:59 UTC ALE4001943 Hz
17:20:27 UTC ALE4001948 Hz
17:16:52 UTC ALE4001954 Hz
17:10:52 UTC ALE4001582 Hz
17:09:47 UTC ALE4001588 Hz
17:04:48 UTC ALE4001981 Hz
16:47:25 UTC ALE4001997 Hz
16:44:15 UTC ALE4002002 Hz
16:36:08 UTC ALE4001588 Hz
16:26:28 UTC ALE4002874 Hz
16:26:15 UTC ALE4002869 Hz
16:24:19 UTC ALE4002874 Hz
15:53:41 UTC ALE4002880 Hz
15:52:16 UTC ALE4002874 Hz
15:47:23 UTC ALE4002880 Hz
15:42:04 UTC ALE4002896 Hz
15:38:06 UTC ALE4002901 Hz
15:21:28 UTC ALE4002960 Hz
15:21:01 UTC ALE4003009 Hz
15:13:08 UTC ALE4002960 Hz
14:47:06 UTC ALE4003154 Hz
14:21:12 UTC DOMINOEX-16   1195 Hz
14:18:07 UTC DOMINOEX-16   1189 Hz
14:16:09 UTC DOMINOEX-16   1195 Hz
14:08:38 UTC ALE4002950 Hz
14:01:31 UTC ALE4002966 Hz
13:38:58 UTC ALE4002196 Hz


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> This coming weekend May 15th and 16th , a few of us  will be testing
> Reed Solomon IDs... their usefulness and robustness. So, if you are
> going to be on the air this weekend, using a digital mode, please use
> your RS ID features.  Use it perhaps a bit more than you might
> normally do, so we can have some targets to detect.  Often people only
> use it at the beginning of a CQ to help ID their mode .  I would like
> to see it on all "overs" since it helps others detect you,  and you
> may be missed if you are not the one calling CQ.  If you have the Call
> ID feature, please also use that since this will also plot your actual
> Call sign.
>
> For those unfamiliar with Reed Solomon ID as implemented by Patrick
> F6CTE, RS ID causes a very brief  tone that, when detected, will allow
> others with RS-ID capable software to be informed of the mode you are
> using.  Software like Multipsk, DM780, and FLdigi then take this
> information and arrange it it tabular form so that you can review what
> ID's you have received and on what frequency.
>
> Andy K3UK
>

[digitalradio] New SCS Email Program For Pactor

[Andy obrien]

FYI,
Andy K3UK

-- Forwarded message --
From: vk4jrc


Hi Everyone,

Not sure IF anyone in the group has seen this, could be interesting!

http://www.scs-ptc.com/downloads/scsmail

Can be run in Client or Server mode, and gives a chance for people to run a
private Email network, outside WinLink, Winmor or SailMail.

73,

Jack VK4JRC

[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] ALE 400 coming out of the woodwork

[Andy obrien]

*
"KE1AF DE WD4MDA MY NAME IS HAL QTH IS JACKSONVILLE FL NEW ON THIS MODE
FIRST CONTACT. CALL IS WD4MDA WD4MDA KA1GMN DE N4HO go od afternoon ...name
is phil and i am located in euless,texas. "

Another new one...


*

[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] ALE 400 coming out of the woodwork

[Andy obrien]

and one more...

"CQ DE WD4MDA   [FAE CQ]
[Connection done with WD4MDA]
hell name is hal in jacksonville how are you andy not sure I am doing
this right? your solid copy here. i just read the article in qst and
thoought i would try the mode.  i had two ale 400 calls during hell
field contest and got hooked. I am running about 50 watts andy..
Really thats neat.  I ran psk31 for a couple of years.  Butr i have
really gotten into these digital modes.  Tony did do a good job.  by
the way your my first contact on ALE 400  HI ."


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> "KE1AF DE WD4MDA MY NAME IS HAL QTH IS JACKSONVILLE FL NEW ON THIS MODE
> FIRST CONTACT. CALL IS WD4MDA WD4MDA KA1GMN DE N4HO go od afternoon ...name
> is phil and i am located in euless,texas. "
>
> Another new one...
>
>
>

[digitalradio] ALE 400 : 8 watts from a Hamstick

[Andy obrien]

Not bad, Colorado to New York with  SF 69 and K Index 2.

CQ DE K6CIA   [FAE CQ]
CQ DE K6CIA   [FAE CQ]
CQ DE K6CIA   [FAE CQ]
[Connection done with K6CIA]
hello and thanks for call...name Jim and qth Pueblo, Colorado...very
nice day here, and ur pretty strong...i have some intermittent noise,
but it just slows things a little...running about 8 watts here to a
hamstick - i'm in an apartment...well, the hamstick is at 100 feet :)
...you're back - did the band drop out? rr, pretty awesome...hope to
use this mode for my weekly sked...didn't get the name there - maybe
cuz this is only my third contact with this mode...ok Andy, thanks and
nice to meet u...yes, i was not too surprised to see this strange mode
after the June issue came out :) ...ok Andy, 73 and will look for
you...73 for now...sk sk
[End of connection with K6CIA]
[14,073.00] [End of TX] End of QSO message

I was running about 50 watts in to a vertical


Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] QRV 10143 ALE 400

[Andy obrien]

I have migrated to 10143 USB (plus 1625 Hz) for the next few hours,
ALE 400 FAE.

K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] 50.260 signal

[Andy obrien]

The meteor folks usually use FSK441 or JT6M.  If it has a musical-type tone
to it , it is JT6M.  IF more white noise sounding, FSK441.  Most of the
Meteor guys announce when they are calling CQ via this web site...

http://www.pingjockey.net



On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
> Tnx Tony I will load up my WSJT program and see if that help tnx, 73
> Russell NC5O
>
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
> - Gerald Ford
>
>
> " IN GOD WE TRUST "
>
>
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
> Skype-Russell.Blair
> Hell Field #300
> DRCC #55
> 30m Dig-group #693
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Tony 
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, May 17, 2010 3:27:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] 50.260 signal
>
>
>
> Hello Russel,
>
> > someone is on 50.260 with a signal that I cant decode must be calling
> CQ antone know this signal.
> > Russell NC5O
>
> It's probably one of two WSJT modes; JT6M or FSK441. The frequency is
> used for meteor scatter as well as other propagation modes.
>
> See http://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalk
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>  
>

[digitalradio] K3UK digital log 5-16

[Andy obrien]

 I was not very active this weekend, but here are the digital mode
stations I heard
Sunday,  (info courtesy of http://pskreporter.info).  6 modes.

Txmtr   BandModeDistanceTime (UTC)
EA8TL   20m PSK31   5754 kms10:04:43
K1DOW   30m ALE400  1064 miles  01:46:01
N4EF30m CALL ID 961 miles   01:43:54
N9DSJ   30m ALE400  461 miles   01:19:47
KX5JT   20m OLIVIA  1109 miles  23:17:27
KA1GMN  20m ALE 1174 miles  23:15:25
K6CIA   20m ALE 1356 miles  22:53:06
W0AEW   20m ALE400  1344 miles  21:59:54
VE9NC   20m CONTESTI1136 kms21:13:53
KE7XU   20m OLIVIA  1680 miles  21:08:51
KA0VXK  20m ALE400  863 miles   20:52:54
WA7YAZ  20m ALE400  1684 miles  20:38:56
WB5NMZ  20m ALE400  981 miles   20:30:35
W9ZQK   20m ALE400  976 miles   19:01:05
W4WWJ   20m ALE400  1013 miles  18:46:07
VE7NBQ  20m DOMINO  3423 kms18:44:46
KR6E20m ALE400  2169 miles  17:53:40
K7EV20m ALE400  2140 miles  17:09:03
WD4MDA  20m CALL ID 850 miles   16:39:50
N4HO20m ALE400  1064 miles  16:17:44
N9KOW   20m MFSK16  584 miles   13:45:25

Andy K3UK
Fredonia, NY

[digitalradio] The Mode Report

[Andy obrien]

Modes detected and call ID's received over last 24-36  hours

RS ID
19:33:08 UTC ALE4002632 Hz
19:23:23 UTC QPSK311189 Hz
19:23:04 UTC QPSK31489 Hz
19:22:48 UTC ALE4003289 Hz
19:21:57 UTC QPSK31489 Hz
19:20:23 UTC OLIVIA-8-500  2271 Hz
19:20:12 UTC QPSK63489 Hz
19:19:41 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  2271 Hz
19:18:45 UTC QPSK63511 Hz
19:18:21 UTC ALE4003289 Hz
19:17:58 UTC QPSK63511 Hz
19:16:03 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  2271 Hz
19:15:28 UTC QPSK63511 Hz
19:15:21 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  2271 Hz
19:10:30 UTC ALE4003294 Hz
19:10:25 UTC QPSK63516 Hz
19:09:39 UTC ALE4003294 Hz
19:09:30 UTC QPSK63516 Hz
19:09:26 UTC ALE4003294 Hz
19:09:08 UTC QPSK63511 Hz
19:05:15 UTC QPSK63522 Hz
19:02:39 UTC ALE4003300 Hz
19:01:16 UTC QPSK63506 Hz
19:00:54 UTC QPSK63511 Hz
19:00:10 UTC ALE4003300 Hz
18:58:52 UTC ALE4003310 Hz
18:56:44 UTC ALE4003305 Hz
18:53:44 UTC ALE4003316 Hz
18:52:31 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1232 Hz
18:49:13 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250   1232 Hz
18:48:35 UTC ALE4003509 Hz
18:48:25 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250   1232 Hz
18:47:45 UTC ALE4003509 Hz
18:45:26 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250   1232 Hz
18:41:50 UTC ALE4002788 Hz
18:38:51 UTC ALE4003515 Hz
18:33:42 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250   1227 Hz
18:03:46 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1055 Hz
17:44:20 UTC QPSK63323 Hz
17:44:10 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1065 Hz
17:43:44 UTC QPSK63323 Hz
17:40:31 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1065 Hz
17:39:19 UTC DOMINOEX-41065 Hz
17:37:29 UTC ALE4004032 Hz
17:37:20 UTC DOMINOEX-41065 Hz
17:31:21 UTC ALE4002551 Hz
17:26:28 UTC ALE4003553 Hz
17:26:03 UTC ALE4003553 Hz
17:24:08 UTC ALE4004129 Hz
17:22:24 UTC ALE4003165 Hz
17:19:44 UTC ALE4004069 Hz
17:10:02 UTC OLIVIA-4-250  1760 Hz
17:08:47 UTC ALE4003127 Hz
16:45:53 UTC ALE4003644 Hz
16:05:23 UTC ALE4003493 Hz
15:51:10 UTC ALE4002621 Hz
15:43:40 UTC ALE4003644 Hz
15:28:57 UTC MFSK161345 Hz
15:24:20 UTC MFSK163596 Hz
15:19:53 UTC MFSK163391 Hz
14:59:53 UTC ALE4002589 Hz
14:59:40 UTC ALE4002594 Hz
14:59:28 UTC ALE4002589 Hz
14:59:14 UTC ALE4003585 Hz
14:59:02 UTC ALE4002594 Hz
14:58:48 UTC ALE4003579 Hz
14:58:35 UTC ALE4002594 Hz
14:58:21 UTC ALE4002589 Hz
14:57:56 UTC ALE4002594 Hz
14:57:31 UTC ALE4003585 Hz
14:57:06 UTC ALE4003579 Hz
14:56:40 UTC ALE4003585 Hz
14:56:15 UTC ALE4003579 Hz
14:39:12 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1894 Hz
14:33:32 UTC ALE4003649 Hz
14:31:41 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1894 Hz
14:28:21 UTC BPSK312793 Hz
14:25:49 UTC ALE4003649 Hz
14:17:18 UTC ALE4002616 Hz
14:14:34 UTC ALE4002621 Hz
14:12:04 UTC ALE4002594 Hz
14:03:55 UTC ALE4002600 Hz
13:44:57 UTC ALE4002621 Hz
13:40:32 UTC ALE4002627 Hz
13:38:44 UTC ALE4002632 Hz
13:35:29 UTC ALE4002637 Hz
13:33:47 UTC ALE4002643 Hz
12:45:53 UTC ALE4002627 Hz
12:30:14 UTC OLIVIA-8-500  2223 Hz
12:27:14 UTC ALE4002632 Hz
12:24:41 UTC ALE4002637 Hz
12:21:58 UTC ALE4002643 Hz
12:19:36 UTC ALE4002648 Hz
12:18:33 UTC ALE4002654 Hz
11:40:58 UTC BPSK631938 Hz
11:38:05 UTC BPSK125   2293 Hz
10:05:34 UTC BPSK31656 Hz
01:30:31 UTC ALE4001609 Hz
01:08:25 UTC ALE4001615 Hz
00:38:24 UTC BPSK250   3003 Hz
00:25:30 UTC BPSK250   3014 Hz
23:53:02 UTC ALE4002137 Hz
23:50:08 UTC ALE4004134 Hz
23:49:30 UTC ALE4004134 Hz
23:49:04 UTC ALE4004139 Hz
23:33:53 UTC ALE4002551 Hz
23:17:09 UTC OLIVIA-8-500  2869 Hz
23:15:01 UTC ALE4002648 Hz
22:52:44 UTC ALE4002304 Hz
12:14:44 UTC BPSK31597 Hz
12:09:13 UTC BPSK31608 Hz
02:27:59 UTC ALE4002928 Hz
01:57:51 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:55:53 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:55:40 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:54:05 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:52:10 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:50:42 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:50:26 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:49:39 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:49:33 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:49:28 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:49:03 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:48:35 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:47:42 UTC CONTESTIA-8-250   1372 Hz
01:46:58 UTC ALE4003090 Hz
01:06:16 UTC ALE400705

Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400

[Andy obrien]

June QST

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:07 PM, wb4...@teara.org  wrote:

>
>
> At 05:56 PM 5/18/2010 -, you wrote:
> >Is anybody on to tinker with ALE400?? It's 1751Z I'm monitoring 14074.00
> and will monitor most of the rest of the day.
> >
> >I'm still trying to figure it out so please bear with me till then.
> >
> >73, Chuck AC5PW
>
> I know this is probably an old question... but is there somewhere I can go
> to read about ALE400 and get started without too much complexity? I use
> several other digital modes, but I don't know anything about ALE400.
>
> Thanks
> Dave WB4IUY
> www.WB4IUY.net 
>
>  
>

Re: [digitalradio] Balcony Antenna via ALE-400

[Andy obrien]

Good one Tony.


I was thinking about voice activated ALE 400.  Dictating in to a speech to
text application..  Could be interesting.




On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> Andy,
>
> Here's an unusual ALE-400 contact...
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
> "K2MO DE WB0VGI
>
> "My first time on ALE and it is sort of working. Rig is FT-100D to an
> ATAS 100 screwdriver antenna on balcony handrail at 17 floors up.
> I found the window I don't have to type send or anything I take it.
> There is another weak signal here but you are 599 and very bright on the
> waterfall. I just loaded MILTIPSK and am trying it for the first time. I
> use all these modes to demonstrate digital modes in class when I teach
> data communication. I am a college teacher here in Minneapolis at
> Augsburg College and it is nice for the students to hear and see the
> data transmission, especially in duplex.
> 
>

[digitalradio] PK 232 MBX for sale

[Andy obrien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Matt Gregory 
Date: Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:32 AM
Subject: [pactor_packet] PK 232 MBX for sale
To: pactor_pac...@yahoogroups.com






hello,
i have a pk 232 mbx with pactor firmware installed for sale with manual and
cables.
works great used it for wl2k just dont need it any more.

matt
kc2...@rocketmail.com

[digitalradio] New 30-40M SDR receiver

[Andy obrien]

FYI, see below.  Thanks to Simon Brown at sdr-radio-com for the info.



"We've now completed and tested the first batch of SDR Receivers and
they are now
released as ready to sell.

The new web page for the SDR Receiver is:

http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/sdr_receiver.htm

73, "

Chris, G4HYG

[digitalradio] Competitors vie to provide earthquake-proof radios for emcomm

[Andy obrien]

The Wireless Innovation Forum has announced the winners of its
competition to find a radio technology suitable for use following a 15
gigaton earthquake.

Skipping over the huge loss of life and general destruction wreaked by
a magnitude 10 earthquake - more than 10 times the size of the Indian
Ocean quake of 2004 - the Forum asked teams to develop a radio system
that could provide connectivity to emergency services descending on
the area from around the world.

The University of Calgary team landed First Place and Best Design,
pocketing $4,000 and $2,000 respectively. The Tokyo Institute of
Technology got second place, worth $3,000, while the Worcester
Polytechnic Institute won Best Presentation and Best Report, worth
$2,000 and $1,000 respectively.

Each prize comes with a scholarship to attend the next Wireless
Innovation Forum Conference.

An earthquake rating 10 on the Richter scale would go way beyond
national borders (probably removing a few in the process), so the
Wireless Innovation Forum envisioned complete destruction of the local
wireless infrastructure and increasing radio congestion as agencies
from different countries arrived on the scene with demands for ever
more bandwidth.

We can't help thinking that in the event of a magnitude 10 quake (five
times larger than the biggest ever seen by humans) international aid
might not be forthcoming in sufficient volume to congest the airwaves,
but perhaps we're too cynical.

Competing teams of students from around the world were whittled down
to six in April last year, based on written submissions. The six were
then tasked with creating a dynamic database to coordinate the
spectrum uses of at least 20 separate emergency service groups in an
apocalyptic urban setting. The database was required to sense users,
and deduce transmitter locations as well the as signalling systems
used, identifying available frequencies for allocation to new arrivals
and working out the potential for interference based on both the
frequencies and the manner in which they are used.

The teams created both hardware and software, then modelled how
effective their solutions would be using Matlab, which by happy
coincidence sponsored the competition.

The winners were marked not only on how effective their solution was,
but also the extent to which the solutions "leverage working group
efforts of the SDR Forum". Which is what this kind of competition is
really about: demonstrating that Software Defined Radio can achieve
remarkable things in extreme circumstances, in the hope that people
will start using it in more mundane applications. ®

[digitalradio] Reporting from Hell

[Andy obrien]

Hell activity for the past week
(courtesy DX Summit)
9A3GA  14073.2 9A5ZMHELL
0919 21 May   Croatia
YO5BBO 14072.0 YO5BBO   CQ HELL 250
0540 21 May   Romania
YO5BBO 14063.0 YO5BBo CQ HELL 250
0444 21 May   Romania
WB4IUY  7071.8 KZ1Z Feld Hell
0229 20 May   United States
WB4IUY  7072.2 K9ZXOFeldHell Contest
0214 20 May   United States
G6LCP-@28123.5 M0OXOHELL
1210 19 May   England
G7OGX  14063.0 W4ALEhell
2358 18 May   United States
G7OGX  14063.0 VE3FGU   hell godd sigs
2357 18 May   Canada
N3LFC  14064.0 N9FTCFELD HELL
1924 18 May   United States
N3LFC  14064.0 KZ1Z FELD HELL
1815 18 May   United States
YO4ELA 14074.1 IK4IDF   FELD HELL WITH TA1BM
1627 18 May   Italy
N3LFC  14065.0 N4THGFELD HELL
1455 18 May   United States
WB4IUY  7068.0 W2GQC/7  FELDHELL FROM MT TO NC
0315 18 May   United States
WB4IUY  7068.0 K9PLXGREAT SIGS ON FELD HELL
0256 18 May   United States
WB4IUY  7068.0 K9VICFELD HELL
0229 18 May   United States
WB4IUY  7068.0 VE3FGU   FeldHell
0207 18 May   Canada
WB4IUY  7068.0 KD8GNC   Great sig on FeldHell, Tery!
0151 18 May   United States
YO9BXC-@   18102.9 TR8CAHELL  CQ CQ
1749 16 May   Gabon
PA0DX-@14063.9 EB5DZC   FELD HELL cq
1721 16 May   Spain
EA8TL  14064.0 EB5DZC   CQ in Feld Hell mode tnx
1622 16 May   Spain
IT9AJP 14076.4 DJ4XRhelltks
0857 16 May   Germany
IW3RUA  7092.0 OT7G BCA  OV-032 Domein de Ghellinc
1551 15 May   Belgium
WB2HTO 14063.0 OH2LUHell sprint contest
1458 15 May   Finland
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 S57UXHELL
0731 15 May   Slovenia
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 OE3EVHELL ERHARD
0723 15 May   Austria
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 RA3ALW   HELL
0715 15 May   European Russia
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 9A3JJHELL
0707 15 May   Croatia
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 TA1BMHELL ISMAIL ISTANBUL
0703 15 May   European Turkey
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 ON8NTHELL
0657 15 May   Belgium
UR5LAK-@   14073.0 YO5ODU   HELL Vasil Baia-Mare
0634 15 May   Romania
YV5MM  10137.0 YV5MMCQ DX FELD HELL
0215 15 May   Venezuela
YV5MM  14063.0 YV5MMHELL
0205 15 May   Venezuela
KZ1Z   14063.0 W8H  hellschreiber Dayton
2007 14 May   United States
N4QLB  14063.0 W8H  Dayton SE Feld Hell Station
1709 14 May   United States
VE3BDR  7076.6 K3TXTHell
0204 14 May   United States

[digitalradio] Mobile CW

[Andy obrien]

Hal/Tony,

I wonder if the serious CW mobile operators might invent some CW
sending capability from there steering wheels ?  Since one's hands are
on the sterring wheel most of the time some thumb sending might work.

Andy

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Tony  wrote:
> On 5/21/2010 4:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote:
>> Thanks Tony I appreciate.  And will let you know when I am on "the Road"
>> LOL. I worked mobile CW for years. LOL.
>> 73, thanks for your time.
>> Hal
>> WD4MDA
>>
>
> Me too Hal! I used to take along a Bulldog mini paddle
> http://www.amateurradioproducts.com/ and use it with the Icom 706. The
> built-in keyer works well once you tweak it a bit.
>
> Lots of fun, but a good size bump in the road can really scramble your
> sending for a moment, especially with the Econo-box I drove hi.
> Hope to work you ALE-400 /M. That would be a first for me!
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tony"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/21/2010 3:28 AM, Hal Stang wrote:
>>>
 All,
 I am setting up my mobile rig again(icom 706/High Sierra
 Screwdriver/Ameritron amp).  I wonder if you could run ALE400 or other
 digital modes from the mobile using speech recognition software???
 Hal
 WD4MDA


>>> Hal,
>>>
>>> Skip Teller can answer your questions - see the thread on this subject.
>>>
>>> Tony -K2MO
>>>
>>> PS: Let us know when you're on the road.
>>>
>>>
>>>
 - Original Message -
 From: "Tony"
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:41 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Speech-to-Text for the Handicapped




> All,
>
> Andy brought up the digital mode / text-to-speech idea recently and a
> thought came to mind that this could help the handicapped. I'm not sure
> if speech-to-text programs can transfer text to another application
> right out of the box, but assuming they did, there would still be the
> need for voice commands to control the program. Seems a second sound
> card may be needed as well; VAC might help.
>
> Skip Teller created Digitalk for the blind (thanks Skip) and Patrick
> wrote an interface for it (thank you Patrick) so the programs can talk.
> Andy's speech-to-text idea would complete the package. It's easy to
> suggest something like this while standing on the shoulders of experts
> like Patrick and Skip; I can only imagine what it takes to write the
> code.
>
> Just a thought.
>
>    Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
>
> 

[digitalradio] Digital DX : Nothing but PSK31?

[Andy obrien]

  We know that many digital modes are good performer but I have not
seen a move beyond RTTY , JT65A and PSK31 by many DX stations.  I'm
not talking about major DXpeditions, logic dictates that their desire
for effciency woul limit them to PSK and RTTY for digital operations.
However, what about the casual DX station that puts out a CQ .  ?
Take a look at a WEEK's worth of digital spots (below).  It would seem
that despite the "robust" nature of Olivia and MFSK16 that the casual
DXer needs only RTTY, JT65A, and PSK31.

Olivia

K2MO   14076.9 ZL1CHS   OLIVIA-16-500 RF73ie > FN30JV
0300 21 May   New Zealand
DF5WW   7055.0 CO2DCtesting ROS and Olivia 32/1000
0030 21 May   Cuba
SWL-@  14107.5 OH2HNOLIVIA with HB9BDM u r 569 in OE6
0701 18 May   Finland
SWL-@  14107.5 HB9BDM   OLIVIA with OH2HN u r 569 in OE6
0701 18 May   Switzerland
F5BNZ  21087.0 J28KOOlivia
1603 17 May   Djibouti
IK2WAS-@   10142.5 EB3JTOLIVIA  500 16 bit  JORDI VILAFRAN
1703 15 May   Spain

just few DX stations.with Conestia, even less


OZ1PMX-@3583.4 VE2DCCONTESTIA 250/8 in QSO 599
0222 18 May   Canada
ON3AD-@14074.8 VE9NCCONTESTIA
2109 16 May   Canada
OV1A   24922.0 ES1HJContestia 4/250 QRP
1016 13 May   Estonia

MFSk16


PA0DX-@28122.0 9A1CCB   MFSK16 cq
1025 18 May   Croatia
IT9AJP 10142.0 9A1CCB   mfsk16tks
1817 16 May   Croatia
PA0DX-@18102.9 TR8CAMFSK16 cq
1726 16 May   Gabon
N9MIW  14063.0 KB0QCMFSK16 DN70oc > EN52xb
1601 15 May   United States
PA0DX-@21071.5 CT1BNW   MFSK16
1021 14 May   Portugal


Domino


N9MIW  14073.0 W1OERDOMINO-16 FN43FT > EN52xb
1421 15 May   United States


JT65A


F4CRD-@14076.0 UA3WTJT65A
1939 19 May   European Russia
IZ6RND 14076.0 ALL  JT65A
1729 19 May   Alaska
BA5HAM 14076.0 M0ZWWTNX FER JT65A QSO
1639 19 May   England
KF6A   14076.0 UA0FOjt65a
0747 19 May   Asiatic Russia
KF6A   14076.0 JF1PTX   jt65a cq 258df
0729 19 May   Japan
KF6A   14076.0 RA0CGY   jt65a cq -145df
0720 19 May   Asiatic Russia
KF6A   14076.0 VK4BDJ   jt65a cq
0720 19 May   Australia
KF6A   14076.0 F8RZ jt65a cq -221df
0601 19 May   France
KF6A   14076.0 VK4BLK   jt65a -277df
0556 19 May   Australia
KF6A7076.0 ZS6BUN   jt65a CQ -388df
0442 19 May   South Africa
KF6A7076.0 ZS2ACP   jt65a
0438 19 May   South Africa
SP9LCW 14076.0 RA0CGY   WSJT JT65A
0733 18 May   Asiatic Russia
YO9BXC 14076.0 K6EU CQ JT65A  CM97
0556 18 May   United States
KF6A   14076.0 SV4FFK   jt65a cq and no takers 0DF
0532 18 May   Greece
KF6A   14076.0 SV4FFK   jt65a CQ
0518 18 May   Greece
KF6A   14076.0 ZL4AFM   jt65a tnx qso 50w
0451 18 May   New Zealand
SP9LCW 14076.0 JS1OYN   JT65A
1431 17 May   Japan
DL3VDL 14076.1 RA0CGY   JT65-A > JO60VU JT65A
1042 17 May   Asiatic Russia
JA9AVA 14076.0 XV9AAJT65A
1029 17 May   Vietnam
KF6A   14076.0 UA0ZKjt65a
0810 17 May   Asiatic Russia
KF6A   14076.0 DL5BBF   jt65a
0751 17 May   Germany
KF6A   14076.0 RA0CGY   jt65a
0742 17 May   Asiatic Russia
KF6A   14076.0 ON5DCjt65a
0725 17 May   Belgium
KF6A   14076.0 YL2CAjt65a
0720 17 May   Latvia
KF6A   14076.0 F1LFTjt65a
0711 17 May   France
F6DKQ  14076.0 KF6A jt65a -11
0704 17 May   United States
KF6A   14076.0 PD0HCV   jt65a
0659 17 May   Netherlands
KF6A   14076.0 IK2WJT   jt65a
0651 17 May   Italy
KF6A   14076.0 VK4BDJ   jt65a LP
0644 17 May   Australia
IK6IHH 14076.0 JA2ACI   JT65A 73 Ichi
2033 16 May   Japan
PA0DX-@14076.0 UA3ICN   JT65A cq
1706 16 May   European Russia
RA3ZSE-@   14077.1 BA5HAM   JT65A CQ CQ
1243 16 May   China
SQ8MXR 14076.0 BA5HAM   jt65a calling
1239 16 May   China
JA2ACI 14075.5 SQ8MXR   WSJT JT65A CQ
1137 16 May   Poland
AL7GA  14076.0 RU6HLJT65A CQ 76.64
0335 16 May   European Russia
DL0TUH  7039.0 DL2IPU   CQ jt65a
0444 15 May   Germany
DL0TUH  7039.0 DL2IPU   CQ JT65a
0249 15 May   Germany
LU8WAG-@   14075.6 UA0AET   JT65A TXN Kapustin , 50W invV 73
2313 14 May   Asiatic Russia
KC4ONQ-@   28077.0 NZ4O JT65A CQ
1556 14 May   United States
AL7GA  14076.0 LY2PPS   JT65A 76.208
1433 14 May   Lithuania
AL7GA  14076.0 WA3TLT   JT65A CQ
0355 14 May   United States